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Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you.

Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you.

 

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#38

A Homicide Detective

Cracking decades-old murder cases, delivering unthinkable news to victims' families, and tracking suspects across borders with John Lamberti, a homicide detective with the Los Angeles Police Department. Why are cold cases harder to solve these days? And what's a "415"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

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#37

A Toy Distributor

Forecasting demand for 40,000 different products, arranging for model kits to traverse the globe from Chinese factories to mom-and-pop hobby shops, and enduring random customs inspections with Alan Bass, a hobby kit and toy distributor. Why can't shops place orders directly with factories and cut out distributors? And what is it like to discover your childhood toys were actually samples given out for market research purposes?The hobby kit and toy distributor business he runs is <a href='https://www.stevenshobby.com'>Stevens International</a>. You can find his family’s brick-and-mortar hobby shop, <a href='https://www.aaahobbiesandcrafts.com'>AAA Hobbies and Crafts</a>, in Magnolia, NJ, and an online store at <a href='https://www.megahobby.com'>MegaHobby.com</a>.  NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

31 Dec 2024

30 MINS

30:59

31 Dec 2024

#36

An Olympic Bobsledder

Hurtling down an ice track at nearly 100mph, perfecting the practice of visualization, and shaving off hundredths of a second with Kaillie Humphries, an Olympic bobsledder. What's the most feared track in the world? And how do athletes practice when there's no ice in the summer? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

17 Dec 2024

39 MINS

39:14

17 Dec 2024

#35

A Christmas Tree Farmer

Shearing Christmas trees into their classic shape, fighting back weeds and blackbirds, and planting 5,000 trees a year with Sheldon Corsi, <a href='https://www.corsitreefarm.com'>a Christmas tree farmer near Cincinnati, Ohio</a>. What does a tree baler sound like? And what makes Christmas tree farming distinctive within the world of agriculture? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

03 Dec 2024

31 MINS

31:16

03 Dec 2024

#34

A Marine Biologist

Swimming with 20-foot manta rays, suffering through grant applications, and rushing to the whale freezer with <a href='https://marinemegafauna.org/team/jessica-pate'>Jessica Pate</a>, a marine biologist based in Florida. How have drones changed her work? And what's wrong with being a "parachute scientist"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

19 Nov 2024

32 MINS

32:53

19 Nov 2024

#33

An Interior Designer

Perfecting the soft finishes, dealing with divorcing couples, and cultivating the perfect network of artisans with Julie Anne Burch, an interior designer. Why did she need a crane to move a piano? And how can interior designers create a "moment"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

05 Nov 2024

30 MINS

30:12

05 Nov 2024

#32

An NBA Referee

Ignoring 10,000 booing fans, collaborating with the replay center, and striving for perfection with Billy Kennedy, an NBA referee. What happens when you get a call wrong? And what's the difference between the trail, slot, and lead officials? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

22 Oct 2024

24 MINS

24:37

22 Oct 2024

#31

A London Cabbie

Outsmarting drunks, competing with ride-share apps, and discovering that some of your passengers were Spice Girls with Jamie Owens, a London cabbie. How much does it cost to buy a cab? And what's "The Knowledge"?You can find Jamie on YouTube at his channel <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/CockneyCabbies'>"Jamie The Cabby"</a>. NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

08 Oct 2024

28 MINS

28:27

08 Oct 2024

#30

A Life Insurance Salesman

Overcoming "soft objections," hustling to line up meetings, and navigating the line between business and friendship with David Johnson, a third-generation life insurance salesman. What is the mistake that "ruins careers" for salespeople? And what is a "feed list"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

24 Sep 2024

31 MINS

31:27

24 Sep 2024

#29

A Camera Operator

Framing a scene to draw in the audience, dealing with screaming directors, and getting lost in an actor's performance with Pauline Edwards, a camera operator. What's it like filming a reality TV show? And what's a "swingle"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

10 Sep 2024

30 MINS

30:24

10 Sep 2024

#28

A Long-Haul Truck Driver

Hauling 32,000 lbs of dead rats, strategically planning every turn and pit stop, and soaking up the highway sunrises and sunsets with Kathy and Gene Lednicky, team truck drivers. What's the chatter like on the CB radio? And what's a "lumper”? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

27 Aug 2024

32 MINS

32:18

27 Aug 2024

#27

A Summer Camp Director

Conjuring a world where kids can reinvent themselves, running a small town in the woods, and witnessing camp counselors falling in love with Eric Sasson, <a href='https://campakeela.com'>a summer camp director</a>. What happens on the last night of camp? And why does the question "Do you have a minute?" spark anxiety? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

13 Aug 2024

32 MINS

32:25

13 Aug 2024

#26

An Ice Cream Truck Driver

Transforming school buses into ice cream trucks, watching kids grow up (one popsicle at a time), and struggling to keep the freezers running with Erin Bailey, <a href='https://chillinouticecream.com'>an ice cream truck driver in New Jersey</a>. What’s her best selling treat? And does she ever get sick of the ice cream truck song?Music credit:"The Entertainer" by Scott JoplinCourtesy of Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under <a href='http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/'>Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License</a> NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

30 Jul 2024

28 MINS

28:02

30 Jul 2024

#25

An Ocean Lifeguard

Learning to read the ocean, performing CPR on a dolphin, and leading daring (and sometimes foolish) rescues with Ed Vodrazka, an ocean lifeguard in California. What are the signs that someone is in trouble in the water? And how do you stay vigilant after many hours in the tower?Ed is the author of a couple of books about ocean lifeguards, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Stories-Sea-Level-Adventures-Californias/dp/B08ZBPK834'>Stories from Sea Level: The Heroic and Humorous Adventures of California’s Ocean Lifeguards</a>. NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

16 Jul 2024

34 MINS

34:25

16 Jul 2024

#24

A Secret Service Agent

Scanning crowds for suspicious behavior, learning how to leap from moving vehicles, and investigating every threat to the president with Cindy Marble, a retired Secret Service agent. What's it like to witness history up close? And what is "left of boom"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

02 Jul 2024

27 MINS

27:55

02 Jul 2024

#23

A Tennis Coach

Scouting for signs of greatness, bolstering players after heartbreaking losses, and fighting the "yips" with Vesa Ponkka, a veteran tennis coach. Why are tennis matches played in silence? And what's a "lucky loser”? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

18 Jun 2024

28 MINS

28:38

18 Jun 2024

#22

A PR Crisis Manager

Taking late-night phone calls from panicked clients, dueling with company lawyers over what to disclose, and rushing to preempt unfavorable stories with <a href='https://christhomasconnects.com'>Chris Thomas</a>, a PR crisis manager. What was it like to manage the media frenzy surrounding the Elizabeth Smart case? And what's the worst possible answer to a journalist's question? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

04 Jun 2024

32 MINS

32:53

04 Jun 2024

#21

A Creative Director

Churning out creative possibilities on tight timelines, crafting bespoke stock images with help from AI, and pitching unique ideas to risk-averse clients with <a href='https://www.joskillman.com'>Jo Skillman</a>, a creative director in Texas. Why do a lot of creative directors grind their teeth at night? And what is a "swoop and poop"? NEW BOOK ALERT!You may be aware that I’ve written or co-written five business books, including <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765'>The Power of Moments</a> and <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287'>Made to Stick</a>. I’ve got a sixth book coming out January 21st called RESET: How to Change What’s Not Working. It’s a book intended to help you and your team get unstuck, to overcome the gravity of the way things have always worked. Learn more about the book or <a href='http://whatitslike.com/book'>preorder it here</a>.Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: ---What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? ---What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean? ... Read more

21 May 2024

26 MINS

26:50

21 May 2024