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The Recipe with Kenji and Deb podcast

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The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

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  Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt  

Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this. The Recipe with Kenji and Deb is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent and listener-supported podcasts. Discover audio with vision at [radiotopia.fm] (http://radiotopia.fm) .

Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this. The Recipe with Kenji and Deb is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent and listener-supported podcasts. Discover audio with vision at [radiotopia.fm] (http://radiotopia.fm) .

 

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#21

Apple Pie

Things we learn in this episode: Kenji has a not-so-secret secret ingredient for can’t-miss pie crust, Deb is not allowed at Thanksgiving without her pie, the birthplace of Kenji’s love of junk food, the ideal baking apple, why American apple pie reigns supreme. Radiotopia's fall fundraiser is happening now! Visit radiotopia.fm/donate. ... Read more

18 Nov 2024

46 MINS

46:04

18 Nov 2024

#20

Take a Break with Home Cooking

Deb and Kenji are taking a break this week. Please enjoy this classic episode from [Home Cooking] (https://homecooking.show/) , our fellow Radiotopia show about food. ******************************  According to our callers, a big part of Thanksgiving seems to be making food for your loved ones that you only kind of like yourself. But can we make these dishes a little better for the people cooking them?! We’re gonna try. Plus, Demi Adejuyigbe ( [@electrolemon] (https://instagram.com/electrolemon) ), tells about his quarantine baking adventures. For recipes, transcripts, and more, visit [homecooking.show/12] (http://homecooking.show/12) . ... Read more

04 Nov 2024

55 MINS

55:05

04 Nov 2024

#19

Popcorn

Kenji and Deb are major, MAJOR fans of popcorn — “God’s gift to snacking” (two guesses who said that). One might actually call them a miracle of science. How does a hard af, yellow pebble turn into a fluffy white edible cloud? How does movie popcorn butter smell so heavenly without any butter? This is Popcornology 101, class is now in session. ... Read more

21 Oct 2024

37 MINS

37:02

21 Oct 2024

#18

Baked Ziti

Kids say the darndest things, and so do Deb and Kenji. “Nobody likes penne.” “Chiffonade is pretentious.” “I have honestly no idea what my recipe contains.” And they’re not the only ones. There are people out there who call baked ziti — get this — lasagna.  While baked ziti may be universally loved as a workhorse of catered buffets, potlucks, and meal trains, Deb and Kenji’s takes on the dish are worlds apart. ... Read more

07 Oct 2024

45 MINS

45:00

07 Oct 2024

#17

Caesar Salad

In this episode, Deb and Kenji stop being polite and start getting real. Turns out, they weren’t born with encyclopedic knowledge of food; before each recording session, they consult…Wikipedia. (Stars, they’re just like us.) You may think of Caesar salad as the most ubiquitous of American salads. In fact, Caesar salad was invented in Mexico. However, it was invented by an American for Americans coming across the border to drink during Prohibition. Come to think of it, that may just be the most American thing ever. Also in this episode: the secret behind Worcestershire sauce and a hack for a quick Caesar dressing. Fax, no printer. ... Read more

23 Sep 2024

43 MINS

43:33

23 Sep 2024

#16

BLT

Deb: “This is the perfect sandwich.” Kenji: “This is my favorite sandwich of all time.” In fact, Kenji has gone way beyond just admiring and ingesting the Bacon-Lettuce-Tomato; as Isaac Newton captured the physical world with his laws of motion, Kenji has bestowed us with the [11 rules of the BLT] (https://www.seriouseats.com/ultimate-blt-sandwich-bacon-lettuce-tomato-recipe) . Deb has made her own significant contributions to the field of sandwich science, with the theory of seasonal variation of the summer BLT and "off-season" BLT. ... Read more

09 Sep 2024

45 MINS

45:58

09 Sep 2024

#15

Back for Seconds

Kenji and Deb will be back September 9 with all new episodes. Watch this space! ... Read more

26 Aug 2024

01 MINS

01:09

26 Aug 2024

#14

Live from Seattle: Deb in conversation with Kenji

Kenji has many pans going on the fire at all times, one of which was directing this year’s Community Curated Series for Seattle Arts & Lectures. In January 2024, he invited his future podcast bestie Deb onstage with him to chop it up about recipe development (and theft!), family, and greasy bags of Dick’s.  Thanks to Alison Stagner and Woogee Bae of [Seattle Arts & Lectures] (https://lectures.org/) for their help. ... Read more

29 Jul 2024

1 HR 08 MINS

1:08:12

29 Jul 2024

#13

Kenji and Deb and Ed

Thanks to our friends at Special Sauce for allowing us to share this episode. Deb, Kenji, and host Ed Levine talk about ye olde days of early food blogging and the backstory of The Recipe. ... Read more

15 Jul 2024

36 MINS

36:25

15 Jul 2024

#12

Mailbag Part 2

We know you don’t want to burn your food in the kitchen (unless it’s a char/sear kinda situation), but you know what else you don’t want to burn? You, the cook. Deb and Kenji reveal their tips for avoiding cooking burnout, as well as how to mine your own sodium citrate at home. Did your eyes get whiplash reading this? Buckle up because your letters took us all over the map: biscuits for every purpose, what kind of pancakes Barbie would eat, how to cook like a boss for 1-2 people.  ... Read more

01 Jul 2024

27 MINS

27:59

01 Jul 2024

#11

Mailbag Part 1

After putting out our first batch of episodes, we put out a call to our listeners — any questions? You sure did. Thanks to listeners from around the world who heeded our call, we bring you our first mailbag episode. Kenji and Deb debunk the 30-minute recipe, contemplate tiers of butter, go down the soup dumpling rabbit hole, and much more. ... Read more

17 Jun 2024

30 MINS

30:33

17 Jun 2024

#10

Asparagus

In this episode, Kenji and Deb talk all about asparagus. You can roast it, puree it, sautee it, grill it, and even eat it raw. It can serve as a snack or as part of a main dish. Did you know it grows in different colors? Hear how Deb prepares asparagus as a family snack and how it can make for a great pizza topping. And it wouldn't be an episode about asparagus without learning about the science behind its notorious side-effect.  Recipes mentioned: Snacky Asparagus (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2022/04/snacky-asparagus/) ) Shaved Asparagus Pizza (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2010/05/shaved-asparagus-pizza/) ) Simple Grilled Asparagus (From [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/simple-grilled-asparagus-recipe) ) Braised Asparagus (from [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/braised-asparagus-recipe) ) ... Read more

03 Jun 2024

40 MINS

40:41

03 Jun 2024

#9

Grilled Chicken

Grilling season is here and so are Kenji and Deb to talk grilled chicken. From marinades to brines, to the one thing that can prevent dried-out grilled chicken: a meat thermometer. No easy access to a grill? We talk grill pans, using vinaigrette for grilled chicken, and a condiment base for your marinades that Deb now swears by. Recipes mentioned: ---Kenji's Mayo-Marinated Chicken With Chimichurri(from [NYT Cooking] (https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1020543-mayo-marinated-chicken-with-chimichurri) ) ---Deb’s Piri Piri Chicken (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2016/09/piri-piri-chicken/) ) ... Read more

20 May 2024

37 MINS

37:10

20 May 2024

#8

Iceberg Salad

Iceberg lettuce gets a bad rap, but can make a good wrap. In this episode, Kenji and Deb go all in on lettuce. From wedge salads with homemade ranch to chronicling the rise, fall, and resurgence of the hardest-working lettuce in the kitchen. Knife and fork wedge salads are just the tip of the iceberg. Iceberg lettuce soup? Pickled iceberg lettuce? We got you.   Recipes mentioned: ---Deb’s Iceberg Wedge with Blue Cheese (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2007/12/an-iceberg-wedge/) ) ---Deb’s Baby Wedge Salad with Avocado and Pickled Onion (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2023/04/baby-wedge-salad-with-avocado-and-pickled-onions/) ) ---Kenji’s Fully Loaded Iceberg Wedge Salad (from [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/wedge-salad-iceberg-blue-cheese-bacon-recipe) ) ---Kenji says “Wedge Salads are Great” ( [Kenji’s Cooking Show] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvUHEYQQGtU) ) ... Read more

06 May 2024

41 MINS

41:22

06 May 2024

#7

Grilled Cheese

News to us at Radiotopia, but there are some of you out there who have some really strong feelings about grilled cheese, almost enough for a whole separate podcast. What is it about this seemingly mellow, humble sandwich — a favorite of both small children and stoners — that elicits all this controversy? (It’s always the quiet ones.) Even if you don’t like grilled cheese, it’s worth listening just for Kenji’s genius lifehack involving sausage. PS - If you are Team Triangle (IYDKNYK), [get yourself this rad t-shirt] (https://cottonbureau.com/p/3V9S9Y/shirt/triangles-taste-better#/3809963/tee-men-standard-tee-white-100percent-cotton-s) (100% of profits go to ACLU)  PPS - for perfect grilled cheese, [listen to this playlist] (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4CS658v67UAKrH33ZrSrJT?si=6673de3b94864b97) Recipes mentioned: ---Deb’s Frico Grilled Cheese Sandwiches (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2013/10/frico-grilled-cheese-sandwiches/) ) ---Deb’s Classic Grilled Cheese + Cream of Tomato Soup (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2006/11/cream-of-tomato-soup-classic-grilled-cheese/) ) ---Kenji’s Grilled Cheese Sandwich (from [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/serious-eats-grilled-cheese-sandwich-recipe) ) ---Kenji’s Good Grilled Cheese (from [Kenji’s Cooking Show] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8UTr5mMVk) ) ---Kenji’s Late Night Chorizo Grilled Cheese (from [Kenji’s Cooking Show] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OVNG7JpnJA) ) ... Read more

22 Apr 2024

43 MINS

43:15

22 Apr 2024

#6

Tomato Soup

Some people think tomato soup only exists to serve as a dipping sauce for grilled cheese, but Kenji and Deb are here to set them straight. A properly, lovingly made tomato soup — even with sad-looking supermarket tomatoes from February — can be a time portal, from the dreariest winter day to the peak of summer farmer’s market fresh. Kenji makes Deb’s genius “grilled cheese kind of built into the tomato soup”, unlocking a new level of tomato soup nirvana. Recipes mentioned: ---Deb’s Weeknight Tomato Soup (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2024/03/weeknight-tomato-soup/) ) ---Deb’s Classic Grilled Cheese + Cream of Tomato Soup (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2006/11/cream-of-tomato-soup-classic-grilled-cheese/) ) ---Deb’s Roasted Tomato Soup with Broiled Cheddar (from [Smitten Kitchen] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2011/09/roasted-tomato-soup-with-broiled-cheddar/) ) ---Kenji’s Fast and Easy Pasta with Blistered Cherry Tomato Sauce (from [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/fast-easy-pasta-blistered-cherry-tomato-sauce-recipe) ) ---Kenji’s 15-Minute Creamy Tomato Soup (Vegan) (from [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/15-minute-creamy-tomato-soup-vegan-recipe) ) ---Lisa Steele’s Cream-Fried Eggs (from the [Washington Post] (https://www.washingtonpost.com/recipes/cream-fried-eggs/) ) ... Read more

08 Apr 2024

41 MINS

41:14

08 Apr 2024

#5

Pancakes

In preparation for this episode, Deb and Kenji fed their children so many pancakes that they are now on a pancake strike. But before you start feeling sorry for these young people, don’t forget they got to taste the rainbow of pancake styles. Tall and fluffy. Crisp and fluffy. Thin and crispy. The hottest pancake in the world right now, the Japanese soufflé. Tough life, kids! We learn why baking soda, baking powder, and buttermilk feature prominently, and the technique for “the absolute fluffiest pancake”. Recipes Mentioned: --- [Smitten Kitchen pancakes] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2017/05/tall-fluffy-buttermilk-pancakes/) --- [Serious Eats pancakes] (https://www.seriouseats.com/light-and-fluffy-pancakes-recipe) --- [Chez Ma Tante pancakes on NYT Cooking] (https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1020121-chez-ma-tantes-pancakes?ds_c=71700000052595478&site=google&network=g&campaign_id=1400169272&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxOauBhCaARIsAEbUSQTkz2ThLfz18YUIo__aZrwCrhwwM-ANfkLxRH1IRMnU-0WzlEl_giAaAuyREALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) ... Read more

25 Mar 2024

44 MINS

44:20

25 Mar 2024

#4

Meatloaf

Kenji and Deb have history with meatloaf that goes way, way back, to summer camp in the 80s. It was not love at first taste, but Deb has a moment of clarity and achieves meatloaf enlightenment. Kenji and Deb chew over “meat batter”, how many Meat Loaf references in one podcast episode constitutes audio malpractice, and if parents who send their teenage children to the store for one ingredient are monsters.  Recipes Mentioned: ---Deb’s Turkey Meatloaf for Skeptics (from [Smitten Kitchen Keepers] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2022/05/smitten-kitchen-keepers/) )  ---Kenji’s Classic Meatloaf (excerpted from The Food Lab, courtesy of [Serious Eats] (https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-all-american-meatloaf-excerpt-recipe) ) ... Read more

11 Mar 2024

35 MINS

35:55

11 Mar 2024

#3

Stovetop Mac and Cheese

Most people are familiar with the stuff in the blue box, but what might seem like a simple dish holds many nuances, from achieving that perfectly smooth cheese melt to avoiding greasiness or lumpiness. Find out why mac and cheese holds a special place in Kenji's heart and the results of Deb’s experience making Kenji’s three ingredient recipe. Recipes Mentioned: [Deb’s Stovetop Mac and Cheese] (https://smittenkitchen.com/2018/02/quick-essential-stovetop-mac-and-cheese/) (courtesy of Smitten Kitchen) [Kenji’s Stovetop Mac and Cheese] (https://www.seriouseats.com/ingredient-stovetop-mac-and-cheese-recipe) (courtesy of Serious Eats) ... Read more

26 Feb 2024

38 MINS

38:16

26 Feb 2024

#2

Introducing: The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

New from Radiotopia, The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. Join us to hear what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup, we got you, and you've got this. Episode 1 drops February 26. Follow us on Instagram @kenjianddeb and visit our [website] (http://therecipepodcast.com/) . ... Read more

12 Feb 2024

01 MINS

01:34

12 Feb 2024

#1

Coming Soon

The Recipe - coming to Radiotopia in 2024! ... Read more

05 Oct 2023

00 MINS

00:36

05 Oct 2023