This isn’t a typical changemaking podcast because it’s not for a typical changemaker. It’s for the innovators who can’t stop taking in information, connecting dots, and changing the world. If that sounds familiar, you aren’t broken, difficult, or an incurable workaholic. You’re a Catalyst, and authors Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas believe that means you’re a rock star. In this podcast series they are having extended discussions on how to use that information to grow and thrive, with Catalysts that are profiled in their book Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out. 


Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out. 

In this episode, we sit down with Julie Hassett, a seasoned enterprise transformation leader and executive coach, to explore what it really takes to lead change from the inside out.Julie’s journey spans four powerful chapters: from Accenture consultant to government catalyst, founder of a 100-person firm, and now Oracle executive. She shares how her early experience navigating complex family dynamics sparked a lifelong curiosity about human behavior—fueling a career in systems change, transformation, and culture building across sectors.Julie opens up about what it means to be a Catalyst executive today: how intuition, psychological safety, and co-creation are vital in high-stakes environments. She explains why slowing down to listen—especially for what’s not being said—is a leadership superpower, and how creating the right conditions is often more powerful than having the right answers.💬 Her mantra: you can’t manage transformation with mandates—you have to win hearts, minds, and energy through trust, story, and shared ownership.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Julie Hassett from Oracle - Leading Transformation from the Inside Out: Trust, Intuition & Culture

In this inspiring conversation, Shannon sits down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianestephan/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Juliane Stephan,</a> a lifelong Catalyst and Operating Partner at BayPine, to explore how Catalysts can find and craft roles that truly give them license to transform organizations. Juliane shares two key strategies she’s used throughout her career: identifying ambiguity when seeking new roles externally, and making a strong business case for transformation opportunities internally.They also dive into the common challenges Catalyst executives face—like moving too fast, needing to repeatedly align others to their vision (she loves memos over powerpoints to force clarity), and operating in resource-constrained environments. Juliane offers practical insights on building trust, developing strategic networks, and creating coalitions to drive meaningful change. Finally, Juliane had some really great ideas about how to navigate the constant challenge of "doing more with less." You'll have to listen to find out more!Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Juliane Stephan, Operating Manager at BayPine - Brass Tacks Transformation: How to Do More with Less

In this electrifying episode, we sat down with legendary management thought-leader, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-hamel-791b096/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Gary Hamel</a>, Author of Leading the Revolution, to explore what it truly takes for organizations to create their own future. Hamel delivers a powerful message: if companies want to stay relevant, they must learn to identify, embrace, and unleash their Catalysts - the changemakers, corporate rebels, and internal revolutionaries who challenge the status quo to drive meaningful transformation.Gary outlines the four essential qualities that Catalysts must embody—and that must be embedded across the broader organization if it’s to thrive in an era of constant disruption:- Courage – The bravery to push against legacy systems and entrenched thinking.- Contrarian Mindset – The ability to see and say what others overlook or avoid.- Compassion – Leading change with empathy and humanity.- Community Building – Forging networks of support to scale impact sustainably.Gary delved into the emotional toll of being a Catalyst. Burnout, frustration, and resistance are all part of the terrain — but as Gary so powerfully puts it, “Life is too short to work on trivial problems.”Whether you’re a Catalyst yourself or a leader striving to empower change agents in your organization, this is a must-listen episode that will leave you inspired and equipped to create a future-ready organization.For show notes please include:If you’d like to connect with Gary, you can find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garyhamel/Follow him on X: @profhamelCheck out Gary’s other award winning <a href=" https://www.garyhamel.com/author" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">books</a>.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Gary Hamel, Author of Leading the Revolution, on Courage, Compassion, and Change

In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brynnshader" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Brynn Shader</a>, founder of ChangeCraft, to explore how change management must evolve in a time of relentless disruption.With 16+ years of experience, Brynn helps Fortune 500s and high-growth companies turn resistance into resilience—ditching rigid frameworks for practical, human-centered strategies. She dives into how HR can lead transformation by embracing agility, empathy, and experimentation.Brynn shares why she calls it “ChangeCraft”—because great change isn’t managed, it’s crafted. And in a world of constant change, it’s the co-creation, transparency, and trust that make the difference.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Brynn Shader, founder of ChangeCraft - ChangeCraft: Redefining How We Lead Transformation

In this powerful episode, Shannon sits down with ultra Catalyst leader <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jclcalvet/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Juan Carlos Lopez (JC)</a>, Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media in Norway. With a career that spans telecom, energy, automotive, media, and e-commerce, JC has built a reputation for turning complex technical challenges into sweeping business transformations.JC shares hard-won insights from the trenches—starting with the critical importance of breadcrumbing your value. He reveals how failing to make your impact visible, both internally and externally, can limit not just your own growth but also your team’s ability to continue driving change. Now, JC leverages storytelling and data to clearly articulate his value and gain the sponsorship needed to sustain momentum.Together, Shannon and JC unpack what makes Catalysts uniquely successful across industries: the ability to form strong teams, connect the unconnected, and blend disciplines to create industry-defining innovation. Whether it&#39;s transforming e-commerce through AI or building internal movements that spark cultural change, JC’s playbook is a masterclass in strategic leadership.You’ll also hear JC’s approach to leading through chaos—how he grounds himself first ("putting on his own oxygen mask") and then supports his teams with empathy and emotional intelligence during times of rapid change.If you&#39;re a Catalyst looking to scale your leadership, amplify your impact, and drive meaningful transformation—this conversation is for you.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Juan Carlos Lopez, Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media: Swiss Army Knife Problem Solvers

In this episode, Theresa Caragol—founder and CEO of AchieveUnite—shares her journey as a Catalyst leader transforming how companies grow through trust, partnerships, and culture. With over 20 years of global experience and a track record of leading 12 acquisitions, Theresa offers hard-won insights on building alignment in times of major change.A key theme in the conversation is the human side of transformation. Theresa emphasizes that success in M&A and partnerships depends on trust, communication, and co-creating a “joint North Star.” She shares practical techniques, including the use of the PQi (Partnering Quotient Index), a science-backed model for activating Catalyst profiles like Energizers and Harmonizers to build high-performing teams.Theresa also opens up about a career-defining moment that challenged her to seek out tough feedback—a lesson that shaped her leadership and inspired the creation of tools like her Difficult Conversations Template, which helps leaders engage in change with clarity and empathy.From leading billion-dollar alliances to teaching emotional intelligence in boardrooms, Theresa blends strategy and humanity in everything she does. Her advice: build trust, listen deeply, and lead with heart.This episode is filled with actionable wisdom for anyone navigating growth, integration, or cultural transformation. Tune in to hear how Theresa Caragol is reshaping leadership through the power of connection.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Theresa Caragol, Founder and CEO, AchieveUnite - Leading Through Trust: Theresa Caragol on Building Partnerships That Scale

In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/plestrange/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Paul L’Estrange</a>, former CTO of Mars and PVH Corp, to explore the critical role IT plays in large-scale transformation—and what it takes for Catalyst leaders to drive change while keeping the core business performing. Paul shares powerful insights on the importance of having great #2s and team members who can bring the organization along on the journey, ensuring that transformation isn’t just visionary but executable.We dive deep into listening as a strategic advantage, particularly paying attention to those who can help manage risk across the change spectrum. Paul also highlights a key leadership challenge: engaging and inspiring those who "keep the lights on" rather than chase the next big innovation. His solution? Spotlighting their work and showing their impact to the broader organization.When it comes to thriving as a Catalyst executive, Paul shares four essential lessons:1️) Put yourself in luck’s path—seek opportunities where your Catalyst skills can drive meaningful change rather than waiting for the perfect role.2️) Know when to move on—if the organization isn’t ready for the transformation you envision, don’t stay too long.3️) Don’t get caught up in process—even in IT, focus on who you’re benefiting, and the "how" will follow.4️) Find mentors who guide, not dictate—seek those who will help you identify what needs to be done but give you space to find your own best approach.This conversation is packed with wisdom for any Catalyst leading transformation in complex organizations. Tune in to hear Paul’s firsthand experience and practical strategies for making bold change happen—without breaking what already works.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Paul L’Estrange – former CTO, Mars – Driving Transformation While Mitigating Risk

In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrbryson/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">John Bryson</a>, Senior Vice President of Startup Services and Venture Banking at Banc of California, to explore his unconventional Catalyst journey—one that has been anything but linear. Inspired by Wayne Gretzky’s famous advice to “skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been,” John shares how his career has been shaped by a series of strategic pivots, each driven by an intentional process of testing hypotheses about emerging market shifts.From the early days of his career in media and entertainment—where he boldly pitched a move into digital media before his company even recognized its potential—to his current leadership in venture banking, John reveals the mindset and strategies that have helped him drive change from the bleeding edge. He highlights three critical lessons for Catalysts looking to influence and lead transformation:- Do the hard work first – Build deep credibility by excelling in your current role.- Make the business case – Connect your vision to the metrics and priorities that matter to decision-makers.Test hypotheses intentionally – Design experiments that create value and generate learning for everyone.John’s insights remind us that the Catalyst path often requires moving across industries, creating new roles, and facing plenty of rejection before breaking through. And when you do get that “yes”? John suggests one of the most powerful things you can ask is: “Why did you say yes?”—so you can double down on what works.Join us for this inspiring conversation as we explore how Catalysts can navigate uncertainty, challenge the status quo, and create meaningful impact by skating toward the future.

John Bryson SVP of Startup Services and Venture Banking, Banc of California —Skate to Where the Puck Is Going

In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-noel-b3568b8/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Megan Noel</a>, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Adtalem, to learn more about the critical role of communications in leading change. She shares a powerful lesson from her mentor:“Create a B-level strategy with an A-level execution plan.”Megan emphasizes that many companies struggle to clearly articulate their strategy, making it difficult for employees—especially change leaders—to succeed. We explore how effective change-makers bring others along by crafting messages that resonate with a wide range of stakeholders helping everyone align with the top organizational goals. Megan shares how AI can help reduce the heavy lift of hyper-personalizing communications, discussing how it can help leaders better understand different audiences, build empathy, and refine messaging for maximum impact.Megan reveals a Catalyst’s secret weapon: internal communications teams. In organizations successfully driving transformation, these teams do more than amplify messages—they stay attuned to current priorities and timing, offering strategic insights that help Catalysts focus, prioritize, and execute with precision.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Megan Noel, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Adtalem - Driving Change with Clarity

In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmcommunications/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Elizabeth Manning</a>, Change Management Leader, to explore her unconventional path from professional dancer to corporate change leader. With a natural talent for dot-connecting and systems thinking, Elizabeth found herself in the rigid, highly regulated world of big pharma—where generalist capabilities were often overlooked. Yet, as she helped leaders navigate complex challenges, her strategic value became undeniable.Elizabeth’s journey highlights the power of creating your own Catalyst role. Early on, she recognized that having an HR Business Partner who understood her skills and potential was essential to breaking through. She continuously solved problems beyond her formal remit, refining her language to align with the C-suite’s priorities. Eventually, she found an executive sponsor in the Chief Medical Officer, who saw her unique ability to drive strategic transformation and created the perfect Catalyst role for her: Strategic Initiatives Lead—a position designed to tackle the company's biggest, most complex challenges.Elizabeth’s story is a masterclass in how Catalysts can carve out meaningful roles within organizations by:Defining their role in alignment with executive priorities – Clarity in how your work creates business value is key.Finding a mentor or sponsor – Someone who understands your strengths and advocates for you when you're not in the room.Developing self-awareness of your superpowers – Knowing what sets you apart helps you lean into your strengths.Translating your value in a way the organization understands – Speaking the language of leadership makes all the difference.Join us as Elizabeth shares how she navigated resistance, built strategic alliances, and ultimately shaped a role that allowed her to create a lasting impact. If you’re a Catalyst looking to find your place in a complex organization, this conversation is for you!Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

Elizabeth Manning, Change Management Leader: From Dancer to Change Leader

In this episode, we sit down with Thomas Knoll, Head of Innov8rs CoLab, who has spent years bringing together innovation and intrapreneurship communities. Tommy dives into the crucial importance of understanding an organization&#39;s "tolerance for change"—especially how much support truly exists at the C-suite level. We explore his thought-provoking article, "Does Your Organization Have a Failure Policy?", unpacking the significance of setting clear failure guardrails within organizations. Through contrasting examples like SpaceX and Boeing, we discuss how intentionality around failure policies can drive innovation, learning, and long-term success. Whether you&#39;re leading change or looking to foster a culture of smart risk-taking, this conversation is packed with actionable insights.Original music by <a href="https://growthnetworkpodcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lynz Floren⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>.

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Catalyst Constellations

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Julie Hassett from Oracle - Leading Transformation from the Inside Out: Trust, Intuition & Culture

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Juliane Stephan, Operating Manager at BayPine - Brass Tacks Transformation: How to Do More with Less

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Gary Hamel, Author of Leading the Revolution, on Courage, Compassion, and Change

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Brynn Shader, founder of ChangeCraft - ChangeCraft: Redefining How We Lead Transformation

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Juan Carlos Lopez, Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media: Swiss Army Knife Problem Solvers

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Theresa Caragol, Founder and CEO, AchieveUnite - Leading Through Trust: Theresa Caragol on Building ...

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Paul L’Estrange – former CTO, Mars – Driving Transformation While Mitigating Risk

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John Bryson SVP of Startup Services and Venture Banking, Banc of California —Skate to Where the Puck...

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Megan Noel, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Adtalem - Driving Change with Clarity

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Elizabeth Manning, Change Management Leader: From Dancer to Change Leader

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Thomas Knoll, Head of Innov8rs CoLab: Do you have a corporate failure policy?