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Waiting To Dry

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Joshua Lawyer and Sergio Lopez

Waiting To Dry is the most entertaining least informative art podcast on Earth. A podcast about art that's way more entertaining than reading an artist bio. Sergio Lopez is an artist who studied at art college, and Joshua Lawyer is self-taught. But both of them have a lot to say about being professional artists. This show isn't about what brushes to use or how to sell your paintings. They talk to artists and each other about what's going on in their lives and try to make each other laugh, and sometimes learn a thing or two in the process.

#100

#124 "Salmon Chase"

Welcome back to the only art podcast that deserves to exist! In this episode we talk about: 11:00 How to sell at art shows, maybe? 28:30 Brainstorming ideas for how to present a narrative without spoon-feeding your audience 41:30 A viral Reddit post about a photographer who deleted wedding photos in front of the groom 1:02:20 The mural festival Josh has been working on behind the scenes 1:29:30 The new Dune movie and dumb design choices in TV shows 1:39:12 discovering the true identity of Bigfoot! Check out Josh's website on Black Friday for new merch! [www.joshualawyer.com] (www.joshualawyer.com) ... Read more

16 Nov 2021

1 HR 50 MINS

1:50:22

16 Nov 2021

#99

#123 Be Social-er

Oops pow surprise! We are back with a new episode without waiting 3 months. In this one we talk about: ---The "Couch Guy" on TikTok ---Getting your foot in the door ---Staying true to your art vs. going the safe route ---Lacking 'imposter syndrome' and the hierarchy of needs ---Which animal would you want to be reincarnated as? ---The "Take The Money And Run" art stunt ---How NFTs can help combat art world BS ... Read more

06 Oct 2021

1 HR 52 MINS

1:52:55

06 Oct 2021

#98

#122 Professor YouTube

It's a mini-ish episode! ...? In this one, Josh and Sergio talk about ---The appropriateness of hugs in this day and age ---Sergio's Sonoma Plein Air success ---The pros and cons of being self-taught ---Learning how to learn ---The secret to selling more art? Sergio's upcoming online workshop: <a href= "https://etchrstudio.com/products/sergio-lopez-miniworkshop-september-17"> https://etchrstudio.com/products/sergio-lopez-miniworkshop-september-17</a> ... Read more

14 Sep 2021

54 MINS

54:16

14 Sep 2021

#97

#121 Scott W. Prior "Robot Jesus Legs"

Scott W. Prior comes back to the show to talk about: ---Dealing with weird people while doing plein air ---The difficulties of painting a mosh pit ---Finding cool spots to paint ---Josh explains why NFTs are important ---Scott's history of dealing with galleries ---Selling the Golden Gate Bridge painting ---Bartering with and trading for paintings ---Getting old and dealing with injuries ---Picking the theme music for driving off the Grand Canyon! Come check out Scott and Sergio's work for #sonomapleinair on Saturday the 11th at Sonoma Square! If you do the #scottwpriorchallenge (listen to the very end), film it and tag us! ;) ... Read more

07 Sep 2021

2 HR 58 MINS

2:58:40

07 Sep 2021

#96

#120 "Muy Bueno Job"

And we're back! In this episode: --- Sergio recaps his month in Colorado and Idaho ---Why California is the best state, ---Why Josh doesn't care for flags ---A Florida Man who thought Josh couldn't speak English ---Doing a mural in the Florida summer ---The logistics of flying to do a mural ---Good and bad zoos and aquariums ---Sergio wanting to go deeper into teaching ---Josh's @paintguide takeover ---How watching TikTok before bed may cause plane crashes. Sergio's free live Youtube demo registration: https://youtu.be/0236RgNi92k ... Read more

15 Aug 2021

1 HR 59 MINS

1:59:02

15 Aug 2021

#95

#119 "Praybe Babies"

We're back! Didja miss us? That's ok, we don't care either, we're PC's! In this episode, we talk about what we've been up to over the past couple of months, the concept of acquiring taste, people hating the artist "fnnch" for the wrong reasons, bad advice flying around on Facebook groups, and presenting art as entertainment on social media. Sergio's new webpage: <a href= "http://www.sergiolopezfineart.com">www.sergiolopezfineart.com</a> The Mural Project: <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/the.mural.project/">https://www.instagram.com/the.mural.project/</a> ... Read more

02 Jun 2021

1 HR 49 MINS

1:49:49

02 Jun 2021

#94

#118 Drawing A Line In The Stone/Just Another Man Named Monday

Sergio and Josh talk about the two types of deaths (00:08:26), how dreams abstracting reality parallels art (00:17:27), everyone having a line between good and bad art (00:28:18), what bothers them the most about the “Subway Sketcher” (00:40:42), answer a couple of listener questions including if they would ever do sculpture (00:51:35), how a student should handle a professor making racially insensitive art (00:59:51), if cats know what color they are (01:09:28), and more. They discuss intent vs interpretation further (01:15:09), the show “Wanda Vision” (01:28:10), and Josh shares the most terrifying thing that he’s ever done, and it was just recent! Catch Sergio’s gouache course launch party for free by signing up here: <a href= "https://bit.ly/GouachePartyForm">https://bit.ly/GouachePartyForm</a> ... Read more

24 Mar 2021

1 HR 50 MINS

1:50:35

24 Mar 2021

#93

#117 Non-Fudge-Able Tokens

In this episode: ---Sergio’s half-assed history lesson of the Salton Sea ---The unfriendliness of Julian California ---Why Josh’s recent mural project fell through ---Why it’s hard for Josh to make a hat ---What are NFTs and how they can transform the world of selling art digitally ---A Banksy piece getting caught up in the hype ---Josh getting into a tiff with the viral fake subway-sketcher guy ---MJ’s white-guy-face-blindness ---Props to Blake Neubert’s new painting series Sergio’s new gouache course: <a href= "http://bit.ly/GouachePaintingMadeEasy">http://bit.ly/GouachePaintingMadeEasy</a> ... Read more

09 Mar 2021

1 HR 53 MINS

1:53:23

09 Mar 2021

#92

WTD Mini Episode #18 Intent vs Interpretation

Sergio wonders if art viewers interpreting the intent of the artist in a different way that the artist intended annoys other people, and Josh has ideas about when people think all art is good. [Sergio’s online gouache course] (https://bit.ly/GouachePaintingEasy) [Josh’s merch store] (https://www.joshualawyer.com/shop) ... Read more

16 Feb 2021

26 MINS

26:05

16 Feb 2021

#91

#116 Doing It Better Is Better

Josh and Sergio ramble about the Super Bowl, Sergio gives an update on the <a href= "https://bit.ly/GouachePaintingEasy">gouache course</a> and a sketch box he built, and they discuss <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Vpqm2IaPE">a Youtube video they watched about business for artists.</a> They talk about what they got out of the video such as how your personality relates to your natural salesmanship, limiting beliefs around making money, being a “sell-out,” learning pricing from selling merch, and competing with dead artists for market share. We end by discussing how “art means what you want it to mean” is a cop-out. <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003L8L4US/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_MG88SSKN6Z64X58159KP"> Book on sales that Josh recommended (Link)</a> ... Read more

11 Feb 2021

1 HR 49 MINS

1:49:58

11 Feb 2021

#90

WTD Mini Episode 17: "Ideas Vs Execution" with Vanessa Walsh

On this week's minisode, we talk about ideas and executing them! We talk about how ideas are curated, listed, and how commissions affect ideas positively and negatively! Vanessa's IG: @compassroseartistry @bloomreportmacro @abitsaucypodcast ... Read more

02 Feb 2021

41 MINS

41:13

02 Feb 2021

#89

#115 Vanessa Walsh Is Painting From Life

Vanessa Walsh joins Josh and Sergio to talk about Avatar: The Last Airbender, the dark side of Tiktok, objectivity vs subjectivity in art, plans on living with Sergio in Colorado for a month, painting from life vs photos, and so much more! Vanessa's IG: <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/compassroseartistry/">@compassroseartistry</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/bloomreportmacro/">@bloomreportmacro</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/abitsaucypodcast/">@abitsaucypodcast</a> Josh's new IG: <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/losthome_apparel/">@losthome_apparel</a> Sign up for Sergio's new gouache course: <a href= "https://bit.ly/GouachePaintingEasy">https://bit.ly/GouachePaintingEasy</a> ... Read more

26 Jan 2021

2 HR 10 MINS

2:10:00

26 Jan 2021

#88

WTD Mini Episode 16 - Muted Neon: The Lazerblade Lopez Origin Story

In this special MF Doom tribute, Josh and Sergio create alter-egos! We decide on what we would paint under our pseudonyms, and Josh gets VERY excited about the possibilities for Sergio’s ideas. Make sure to let Sergio know he needs to bring Lazerblade to life! ... Read more

19 Jan 2021

25 MINS

25:31

19 Jan 2021

#87

#114 Fix The Keyboard, Steal A Base

We start the 2021 year of Our Lord by talking about the Capitol Hill takeover, fixing the keyboard layout (26:10), the concept of “stealing your base,”(41:07) Milo Hartnoll calling out Devon Rodriguez for his staged Tiktok videos and Guiseppe Celi, the passing of MF Doom and what he meant to us, and the mysterious Cookie Monster mural. Cover art credit: Nate Van Dyke ... Read more

13 Jan 2021

1 HR 48 MINS

1:48:22

13 Jan 2021

#86

#113 Josh and Sergio: Solo Paneers

Josh and Sergio talk about the art world’s obsession with originality, recap their Christmas celebrations, Josh explains why he hates getting gifts, the aftermath of creating merch, and more. We then play the 2020 cliche game, where the winner is the person who used the most cliches! Who used the most cliche phrases, or the most cliche activities? We also find out what pop culture references are now 20 years old! It’s our most Buzzfeediest episode yet! We finish up by talking about our 2021 plans and Josh’s future business ventures. It’s a low key vibe thang y’all. ... Read more

31 Dec 2020

2 HR 07 MINS

2:07:35

31 Dec 2020

#85

WTD Mini Episode 15: Making Merch

Sergio asks Josh all about his process for rolling out merch! Josh breaks down how much he spent, how he would sell the prints differently, the companies he used and the advantages of printing local, the reasons for selling merch beyond monetary gain, the importance of ordering the right sizes for apparel, and more. If you’re about to make your own merch, or even thinking about it, make sure to listen to this episode first! [www.joshualawyer.com/shop] (http://www.joshualawyer.com/shop) ... Read more

22 Dec 2020

33 MINS

33:40

22 Dec 2020

#84

#112 “Yuh Boy Josh Snitched” With MJ Lindo

We start off by talking about how to not do soul-sucking commissions and Josh asks Sergio a potentially friendship-ending question (17:40) before we get into what everyone is here to listen for: the recent video featuring Josh and MJ’s art without their permission! (20:00) Josh talks about why he deleted the story on his IG where he first announced this(38.37), what the response was to the video takedown by the offender, and why they were against the mural in the first place! They also talk about the Stone Sparrow Gallery show (1:07:10) and the new direction that MJ wants to go with her next body of work. Sergio talks about where he is at with putting together his gouache course (1:28:40) before we talk about the TV shows The Mandalorian, Fargo season 4, and Kingdom. We end with MJ talking about some interesting payment innovations in the gallery world. Get some merch from Josh at <a href= "https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joshualawyer.com%2Fshop&e=ATNZcnH_9ft8LCqKJYeV59kL9pKLpwbMJ_3CqhxfTkDTY79QX4nc3RG_t8ODDJ8q3LyMmXMkb8RdTFOb2Ut8&s=1"> www.joshualawyer.com/shop</a>! [instagram.com/mjlindo] (instagram.com/mjlindo) [instagram.com/stonesparrownyc] (instagram.com/stonesparrownyc) ... Read more

15 Dec 2020

2 HR 02 MINS

2:02:42

15 Dec 2020

#83

#111 Monty Guy "Drunk Darwinism"

Our first guest in the quarantine! Fan favorite Monty Guy talks to us about life in the Arizona desert, lack of motivation, The Chappelle Show being sold to Netflix, the cost of living, flags and borders, the deterioration of the Bay Area, embracing the outlaw, thoughts on the gallery role in the future, haggling and discounts(Josh gives a hot tip!), and a whole lot more. [www.instagram.com/montyguy] (http://www.instagram.com/montyguy) ... Read more

08 Dec 2020

2 HR 22 MINS

2:22:18

08 Dec 2020

#82

WTD Mini Episode #14: Perfectionism Vs Profitability

On today's mini episode, we discuss the pros and cons of the pursuit of perfectionism at the expense of profitability. We also discuss the existence of squid people in our government. <a href= "https://stonesparrownyc.com/josh-parallel-universe">Josh's exhibition "Object In Motion" LINK</a> [Apply to beta-test Sergio's landscape painting course] (https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JSVLRRF) ... Read more

01 Dec 2020

21 MINS

21:14

01 Dec 2020

#81

#110 Luke Warmwalker

Sergio is joining the faculty at <a href= "https://www.sentientacademy.com/">Sentient Academy!</a> We talk about how teaching can be thought of like an artist, why artists shouldn't self-deprecate, Josh's feelings about his work after finishing the paintings for the <a href= "https://stonesparrownyc.com/artists-/-available-work#/parallel-universe/"> Stone Sparrow Gallery</a> show, <a href= "https://nypost.com/2020/11/19/scientists-make-bigger-monkey-brains-using-human-genes/"> scientists splicing human genes into monkey brains</a>, the pressure of the first page of the sketchbook, and more. Is Josh an optimistic nihilist? Would any artist be invited to the locker room if their favorite team won the Super Bowl? Is art fame the best kind of fame? All these questions answered on this week's episode of Waiting To Dry! ... Read more

24 Nov 2020

1 HR 42 MINS

1:42:45

24 Nov 2020

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