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The Ezra Klein Show

Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike? Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike? Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

 

#7

What’s Wrong With Donald Trump?

I think there’s an answer. But it’s not age — or, at least, it’s not just age. Mentioned: “ [White House aides lean on delays and distraction to manage Trump] (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/trump-aides-guard-rails-243608) ” by Josh Dawsey “ [I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration] (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html) ” by Miles Taylor “ [What JD Vance Believes] (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/opinion/jd-vance-interview.html) ” by Ross Douthat Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at [nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast] (https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs] (https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html) . This audio essay for “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by our supervising editor, Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Jack McCordick. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our supervising editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

12 hrs Ago

44 MINS

44:08

12 hrs Ago


#6

The Hidden Politics of Disorder

Crime data has been a flashpoint in this election. Kamala Harris has claimed that violent crime is at a “near 50-year low,” while Donald Trump has insisted that crime is going up. According to the numbers reported to the F.B.I., Harris is right: Crime, especially violent crime, has been falling. But if you look at survey data, Trump is tapping into something people feel. Last year, 77 percent of Americans told Gallup that they believe crime is on the rise. So what’s going on here? Why, if crime is falling, do people feel less safe?  Charles Fain Lehman, a crime and drug policy researcher at the Manhattan Institute, wrote a piece on his Substack, The Causal Fallacy, [on exactly this question] (https://thecausalfallacy.com/p/its-time-to-talk-about-americas-disorder) . In this conversation, we discuss why he thinks Americans are feeling less safe, despite what the data says, as well as the ideological shifts taking place around drugs and crime, on both the left and the right. Mentioned: “ [Breakdown] (https://www.city-journal.org/article/breakdown) ” by Heather Mac Donald “ [Between Tolerant Containment and Concerted Constraint: Managing Madness for the City and the Privileged Family] (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0003122419859533) ” by Neil Gong Book Recommendations: [Thinking About Crime] (https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/james-q-wilson/thinking-about-crime/9780465048847/?lens=basic-books) by James Q. Wilson [Against Excess] (https://www.google.com/books/edition/Against_Excess/ETi8AAAAIAAJ?hl=en) by Mark Kleiman [The Bonfire of the Vanities] (https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312427573/thebonfireofthevanities) by Tom Wolfe Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at [nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast] (https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs] (https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html) . This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our supervising editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Switch and Board Podcast Studio. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

18 Oct 2024

1 HR 32 MINS

1:32:24

18 Oct 2024


#5

Book Review: Robert Caro on 50 Years of ‘The Power Broker’

As of this week, the archive of this show is behind a paywall. The three most recent episodes are free, but earlier episodes are available only to New York Times subscribers. If you don’t want the whole subscription, there’s an audio-only subscription for $1.50 a week. That gets you access to our archives, as well as the archives of all the other great Times podcasts. To help make the pitch here, I wanted to share an episode from our friends at the “Book Review” podcast. It’s hosted by Gilbert Cruz, the editor of The Times’s Book Review section. And I thought you might enjoy this particular episode with Robert Caro about his book “The Power Broker.” It came out 50 years ago, and it’s still one of the most influential books in politics and policy circles — for better or for worse. In this conversation they dig into why that is and what to make of the book’s legacy. I hope you enjoy it.  To learn more about the subscription, visit [nytimes.com/podcasts] (https://nytimes.com/podcasts) .  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

15 Oct 2024

47 MINS

47:43

15 Oct 2024


#4

Ta-Nehisi Coates on Israel: ‘I Felt Lied To.’

In his new book of essays, “ [The Message] (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/653438/the-message-by-ta-nehisi-coates/) ,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes about a trip he took to Israel and the West Bank in May 2023. “I felt lied to,” he told me. “I felt lied to by my craft. I felt lied to by major media organizations.” Coates’s essay is a searing portrait of Palestinian life under Israeli rule. It has also been criticized for leaving much out: Hamas is never mentioned. Nor is Oct. 7. Nor are any of the peace processes. So I asked him on the show to discuss what he saw when he was there and what he chose to leave outside the frame. Mentioned: “ [The Case for Reparations] (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/) ” by Ta-Nehisi Coates [The Necessity of Exile] (https://ayinpress.org/the-necessity-of-exile/) by Shaul Magid [The Virtue of Nationalism] (https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/yoram-hazony/the-virtue-of-nationalism/9781541645387/?lens=basic-books) by Yoram Hazony “ [US media talks a lot about Palestinians — just without Palestinians] (https://www.972mag.com/us-media-palestinians/) ” by Maha Nassar Book Recommendations: [Justice for Some] (https://www.sup.org/books/law/justice-some) by Noura Erakat [Our American Israel] (https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674737624) by Amy Kaplan [The Unspoken Alliance] (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/132145/the-unspoken-alliance-by-sasha-polakow-suransky/) by Sasha Polakow-Suransky Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at [nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast] (https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs] (https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html) . This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Efim Shapiro and Isaac Jones, with Aman Sahota. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

11 Oct 2024

1 HR 20 MINS

1:20:26

11 Oct 2024


#3

How Biden’s Middle East Policy Fell Apart

On Oct. 6 of last year, the Biden administration was hammering out a grand Middle East bargain in which Saudi Arabia would normalize relations with Israel in exchange for a Palestinian state. And even after Hamas’s attack the following day, the U.S. hoped to keep that deal alive to preserve the conditions for some kind of durable peace.  But that deal is now basically unviable. The war is expanding. Israel may be on the verge of occupying Gaza indefinitely and possibly southern Lebanon, too. So why was President Biden ineffective at achieving his goals? In the past year, has the U.S. been able to shape this conflict at all? Franklin Foer recently wrote [a piece in The Atlantic] (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/09/israel-gaza-war-biden-netanyahu-peace-negotiations/679581/) trying to answer these questions. And he starts with the Biden administration’s attempts to de-escalate tensions in the Middle East — an effort that began well before Oct. 7. In this conversation, Foer walks through his reporting inside the diplomatic bubble of the conflict and the administrations of other Middle Eastern states that have serious stakes in Israel’s war in Gaza. Book Recommendations: [Our Man] (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/215731/our-man-by-george-packer/) by George Packer [See Under] (https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312420697/seeunderlove) by David Grossman [Collected Poems] (https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393354935) by Rita Dove Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at [nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast] (https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast) . Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at [https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs] (https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html) . This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair . Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Efim Shapiro, Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Emma Ashford, Shira Efron, Natasha Hall, Richard Haass, Michael Koplow, Selcuk Karaoglan and Switch and Board Podcast Studio. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

08 Oct 2024

1 HR 31 MINS

1:31:00

08 Oct 2024


#2

About the Coming Paywall

In a couple weeks, the archives of our show will only be available to subscribers. Here’s why that’s happening and what to expect.  To learn more, go to [nytimes.com/podcasts] (nytimes.com/podcasts) . Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

02 Oct 2024

04 MINS

04:10

02 Oct 2024


#1

Coming Soon: The Ezra Klein Show

Every Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation about something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike? Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at [nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast] (https://www.nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast) , and you can find Ezra on Twitter [@ezraklein] (https://www.twitter.com/ezraklein) . Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com] (mailto:ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com) . “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Rogé Karma and Jeff Geld; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at [nytimes.com/podcasts] (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. ... Read more

13 Jan 2021

02 MINS

02:12

13 Jan 2021