To mark the release of our new book “<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Abundance/Ezra-Klein/9781668023488">Abundance</a>,” my co-author Derek Thompson had me on his podcast, “<a href="https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/plain-english-with-derek-thompson">Plain English</a>,” to talk about it. We’re on book tour right now, so we’re doing a lot of talking about this book. But this conversation is different. It’s just Derek and me, and we get into the story of how the book came together, and all the people and ideas that influenced us – a kind of intellectual history of the abundance agenda. And I thought the audience of this show might find this interesting too.  This episode of “Plain English” was recorded on March 11.Mentioned:“<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Abundance/Ezra-Klein/9781668023488">Abundance</a>” by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson“<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/p/abundance-tour">Abundance” book tour</a>“<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/abundance-americas-next-political-order/682069/">The Political Fight of the Century</a>” by Derek Thompson“<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/opinion/supply-side-progressivism.html">The Economic Mistake the Left Is Finally Confronting</a>” by Ezra KleinThis episode contains strong language.
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