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Women face gender discrimination throughout our careers. It doesn't have to derail our ambitions — but how do we prepare to deal with it? There's no workplace orientation session about narrowing the wage gap, standing up to interrupting male colleagues, or taking on many other issues we encounter at work. So HBR staffers Amy Bernstein, Amy Gallo, and Emily Caulfield are untangling some of the knottiest problems. They interview experts on gender, tell stories about their own experiences, and give lots of practical advice to help you succeed in spite of the obstacles.

Women face gender discrimination throughout our careers. It doesn't have to derail our ambitions — but how do we prepare to deal with it? There's no workplace orientation session about narrowing the wage gap, standing up to interrupting male colleagues, or taking on many other issues we encounter at work. So HBR staffers Amy Bernstein, Amy Gallo, and Emily Caulfield are untangling some of the knottiest problems. They interview experts on gender, tell stories about their own experiences, and give lots of practical advice to help you succeed in spite of the obstacles.

 

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#148

Chats, Bots, and Prompts: Make GenAI Work for You

How much are you using ChatGPT or Claude or one of the other LLMs in your job? Have you, like the Amys, largely avoided it because you haven’t been impressed with what you’ve seen it do? Or you haven’t thought of a compelling use case? Or maybe you feel professionally threatened? The Amys have gone from being skeptical dabblers to skeptical enthusiasts. Why? They heard several listeners describe how they’ve gotten surprisingly good results, not to mention mental relief, greater agency at work, and imaginative business leads. If you haven’t yet tried your hand at GenAI, we hope these power users, along with our guest expert, data journalist Alexandra Samuel, inspire you to finally do that; and if you’re already using the technology, that you come away with new ideas. Guest expert: Alexandra Samuel is a tech speaker and data journalist who creates data-driven reports and workshops for companies around the world. Resources: ---“ [How the Next Generation of Managers Is Using Gen AI] (https://hbr.org/2024/09/how-the-next-generation-of-managers-is-using-gen-ai) ,” by Gabriele Rosani and Elisa Farri ---“ [Using ChatGPT to Make Better Decisions] (https://hbr.org/2023/08/using-chatgpt-to-make-better-decisions) ,” by Thomas Ramge and Viktor Mayer-Schönberger ---“ [The AI Skills You Should Be Building Now] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2024/09/the-ai-skills-you-should-be-building-now) ,” from the HBR IdeaCast ---“ [A Toolkit to Help You Manage Uncertainty Around AI] (https://hbr.org/2024/10/a-toolkit-to-help-you-manage-uncertainty-around-ai) ,” by Oguz A. Acar and Bob Bastian ---“ [Embracing Gen AI at Work] (https://hbr.org/2024/09/embracing-gen-ai-at-work) ,” by H. James Wilson and Paul R. Daugherty Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

11 Nov 2024

56 MINS

56:17

11 Nov 2024

#147

When Anxiety Interferes with Work

Worrying is a fact of life; it comes and goes—usually. But what do you do when it doesn’t go away? And starts to disrupt your work? Women are twice as likely as men to develop an anxiety disorder, which can show up as physical symptoms like dizziness and nausea and as mental symptoms like repetitive and catastrophic thinking. If you’ve been worried for a while, wondering if you should see a therapist, take time off, tell your boss, or even quit your job, clinical psychologist Michelle Drapkin has advice. She and the Amys discuss the differences between run-of-the-mill anxiety and a disorder. They also get into practical advice, like how to keep yourself from spiraling after a mistake, what to say when you wake up too anxious to do your job that day, and how managers can sensitively approach an employee who appears to need help. Guest: Michelle Drapkin is a clinical psychologist and behavioral scientist who specializes in anxiety and panic disorders. Resources: ---“ [Women @ Work 2024: A Global Outlook] (https://www.deloitte.com/global/en/issues/work/content/women-at-work-global-outlook.html) ,” from Deloitte ---“ [How High Achievers Overcome Their Anxiety] (https://hbr.org/2023/03/how-high-achievers-overcome-their-anxiety) ,” by Morra Aarons-Mele ---“ [Managing Anxiety When There’s No Room for Error] (https://hbr.org/2023/06/managing-anxiety-when-theres-no-room-for-error) ,” by Alice Boyes ---“ [How to Talk About Your Mental Health with Your Employer] (https://hbr.org/2021/07/how-to-talk-about-your-mental-health-with-your-employer) ,” by Kelly Greenwood Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

04 Nov 2024

41 MINS

41:15

04 Nov 2024

#146

To Get What You Want, Be Both Assertive and Warm

When you’ve gone after something you want, like a promotion or less boring work, did you follow the typical advice to lean hard into your confident, forceful side? When you’re interacting with people at work, how often do you find yourself deflecting praise, downplaying your accomplishments, or responding “busy!” when someone asks how you’re doing? We often make a tradeoff between being likable and being strong, but is it possible to be both assertive and warm? Alison Fragale, a professor of organizational behavior, says yes. She argues that women can—and should—embrace warmth and assertiveness to build respect, elevate their status, and gain power. Alison shares practical ways to show up as strong and personable and offers advice on how to approach negotiations, networking, and other everyday interactions, including your out-of-office message. Guest: Alison Fragale is a professor of organizational behavior at the University of North Carolina’s business school. She’s the author of the book Likeable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

28 Oct 2024

37 MINS

37:30

28 Oct 2024

#145

What a Woman in the White House Could Mean for Us

How would having a woman in the most powerful position in the United States affect how Americans perceive women as leaders? What changes have resulted from this type of representation in other countries, like Pakistan, Brazil, and New Zealand? Political scientist Farida Jalalzai and organizational psychologist Laura Morgan Roberts unpack the symbolic and practical effects of having a woman in a top leadership position. They explore how Kamala Harris’s potential presidency could challenge and shift our notions of leadership and change the way that women understand what’s possible for themselves. They also dive into the realities Harris might face if elected—like juggling high expectations and navigating the complexities of representation. Guests: Farida Jalalzai is a political scientist and professor at Virginia Tech. Laura Morgan Roberts is an organizational psychologist and professor at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

21 Oct 2024

39 MINS

39:51

21 Oct 2024

#144

Season 10 of Women at Work Starts October 21

We’re back with another season! How are women using GenAI to transform their work? What can we learn from the listeners who identify as “AI power users” about how to boost our productivity, creativity, and confidence?  Why is working while parenting a teenager so much harder than Amy Gallo expected, and how can she and other moms navigate this emotionally demanding phase of motherhood? If you’re mid-career and thinking about switching industries, what should you know before making the leap? These questions are at the heart of some of the conversations the Amys are having this season. As always, they’ll bring you expertise, stories, and advice. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

14 Oct 2024

04 MINS

04:57

14 Oct 2024

#143

Ground Your DEI Efforts in Data

Do you know how your company’s DEI efforts are going? What data does your company collect  to track and shape these efforts? In this episode, DEI strategist and consultant Lily Zheng explains why data-driven efforts are everything. The way people make lasting progress on diversity, equity, and inclusion is to measure outcomes. During this year’s Women at Work Live event, DEI strategist Lily explained the opportunities that data can create for DEI. They give examples from different companies, including one that was able to discern where exactly their recruiting efforts became inequitable and how the company fixed it. Lily also has advice for making a difference with data even when your company is tiny or you’re starting from scratch or there’s no budget. Guest experts: Lily Zheng is a diversity, equity, and inclusion strategist, consultant, and speaker who works with organizations to achieve the DEI impact and outcomes they need. They are the author of [DEI Deconstructed: Your No-Nonsense Guide to Doing the Work and Doing it Right] (https://www.amazon.com/DEI-Deconstructed-No-Nonsense-Guide-Doing/dp/1523002778) . Resources: ---“ [What Needs to Change About DEI — and What Doesn’t] (https://hbr.org/2024/04/what-needs-to-change-about-dei-and-what-doesnt) ,” by Lily Zheng ---“ [To Make Lasting Progress on DEI, Measure Outcomes] (https://hbr.org/2023/01/to-make-lasting-progress-on-dei-measure-outcomes) ,” by Lily Zheng ---“ [The Failure of the DEI-Industrial Complex] (https://hbr.org/2022/12/the-failure-of-the-dei-industrial-complex) ,” by Lily Zheng ---“ [To Avoid DEI Backlash, Focus on Changing Systems — Not People] (https://hbr.org/2022/09/to-avoid-dei-backlash-focus-on-changing-systems-not-people) ,” by Lily Zheng ---“ [To Build a DEI Program That Works, You Need Metrics] (https://hbr.org/2022/10/to-build-a-dei-program-that-works-you-need-metrics) ,” by Joan C. Williams et al. ---“ [How to Push for Policy Changes at Your Company] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2022/11/how-to-push-for-policy-changes-at-your-company) ,” from Women at Work Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

12 Aug 2024

42 MINS

42:12

12 Aug 2024

#142

How to Manage: Rising from Middle to Senior Management

No matter how ambitious and talented you are, rising up and out of mid-level management can be slow going for reasons beyond your control. Maybe it’s because your company doesn’t have a business need—or budget—to upgrade your job title and salary from senior to executive. Or maybe it’s because the person in the position you want has been there forever—and has no plans to leave any time soon. Still, there are plenty of factors that you can control, and Amy B and her three guests cover them in this episode. Leadership development coach Cynthia Pong first validates the challenges of scoring a position that’s scarce. Then, Lauren Reyes and Megan Bock, both COOs whose careers stagnated in mid-level management before accelerating again, recount the conversations, decisions, and networking that jump-started them. Guest experts: Cynthia Pong is the CEO of Embrace Change, a leadership development and executive coaching consultancy. Megan Bock is the COO of Federato, a company that uses machine learning to assess risk.  Lauren Reyes is the COO of the YMCA of Greater Boston. Resources: ---“ [How to Beat Mid-Career Malaise] (https://hbr.org/2018/08/how-to-beat-mid-career-malaise) ,” by Rebecca Knight ---“ [Overcoming Self-Doubt in the Face of a Big Promotion] (https://hbr.org/2022/03/overcoming-self-doubt-in-the-face-of-a-big-promotion) ,” by Evelyn Hsu and Sabina Nawaz --- [You, the Leader] (https://store.hbr.org/product/you-the-leader-hbr-women-at-work-series/10525) , from the Women at Work Series ---“ [Research: How Women Can Build High-Status Networks] (https://hbr.org/2024/03/research-how-women-can-build-high-status-networks) ,” by Carla Rua-Gomez et al. ---“ [Women and the Labyrinth of Leadership] (https://hbr.org/2007/09/women-and-the-labyrinth-of-leadership) ,” by Alice Eagly and Linda L. Carli Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

24 Jun 2024

51 MINS

51:52

24 Jun 2024

#141

How to Manage: Selling Your Ideas to Leadership

Think back to the last time you pitched an idea to upper management on how to change the way your company does business. Perhaps you proposed an improvement to an existing process, a new technology that would help things run smoother, or a different market you all could break into. How’d that go over? As a mid-level manager, your involvement in day-to-day operations positions you to propose change that’s innovative and achievable. Amy B and her two guests, Sue Ashford and Ellen Bailey, give suggestions for framing those ideas so that executives buy into them. They’ll talk about the research findings they keep in mind, questions they ask themselves and others when vetting something, and what they learned from the times they missed the mark. Guest experts: Sue Ashford is a professor at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business.  Ellen Bailey is the vice president of business and culture transformation at Harvard Business Publishing. Resources: ---“ [Middle Managers Should Drive Your Business Transformation] (https://hbr.org/2024/04/middle-managers-should-drive-your-business-transformation) ,” by Michael Mankins and Patrick Litre ---“ [Do You Understand the Problem You’re Trying to Solve] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2024/04/do-you-understand-the-problem-youre-trying-to-solve) ?” from HBR on Leadership ---“ [Get the Boss to Buy In] (https://hbr.org/2015/01/get-the-boss-to-buy-in) ,” by Susan (Sue) Ashford and James R. Detert --- [HBR Guide to Building Your Business Case] (https://store.hbr.org/product/hbr-guide-to-building-your-business-case/15038) , by Ray Sheen and Amy Gallo ---“ [How to Push for Policy Changes at Your Company] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2022/11/how-to-push-for-policy-changes-at-your-company) ,” from Women at Work ---“ [The Essentials: Persuading People] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2022/04/the-essentials-persuading-people) ,” from Women at Work Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

17 Jun 2024

35 MINS

35:08

17 Jun 2024

#140

How to Manage: Executing Strategy

Your company’s executive team has just announced their new master plan for growing the business. Now it’s your job, as a mid-level manager, to put it into practice. Deep breath. Apart from the inevitable interpersonal and operational drama that change management causes, this is an opportunity to show that you know your stuff. Strategist Andrea Belk Olson spells out how to make the most of a plan that you may or may not agree with and that you may or may not have had any input into. She suggests important questions to ask yourself before taking action, ways to handle resistance from people you manage, what to do when the plan isn’t working well, and points to include in progress updates. Then, Amy B and two of her colleagues, Jennifer Long and Gabriella Spatolisano, chat about how they’ve handled skepticism and spoken up about their reservations when leading change initiatives in the past. Guest expert: Andrea Belk Olson is a differentiation strategist, speaker, author, and customer-centricity expert. Resources: ---“ [Why Isn’t Your Strategy Sticking?] (https://hbr.org/2024/03/why-isnt-your-strategy-sticking) ” by Andrea Belk Olson ---“ [3 Reasons Why Every Department Needs Its Own Strategy] (https://hbr.org/2024/01/3-reasons-why-every-department-needs-its-own-strategy) ,” by Andrea Belk Olson ---“ [Getting Employee Buy-In for Organizational Change] (https://hbr.org/2023/02/getting-employee-buy-in-for-organizational-change) ,” by Andrea Belk Olson ---“ [4 Common Reasons Strategies Fail] (https://hbr.org/2022/06/4-common-reasons-strategies-fail) ,” by Andrea Belk Olson --- [HBR Guides to Building Your Strategic Skills Collection] (https://store.hbr.org/product/hbr-guides-to-building-your-strategic-skills-collection-3-books/10371) , by Harvard Business Review Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

10 Jun 2024

46 MINS

46:03

10 Jun 2024

#139

How to Manage: Getting Out of the Weeds

Before you became a mid-level manager, you were probably doing some individual contributor work: designing, producing, or selling something. Now your workday is likely focused on people and project management, including ensuring that everyone and everything is fulfilling a vision. Filling this more strategic role can feel  uncomfortably abstract, making you want familiar and tangible tasks—to meddle in what used to be your business. Amy B and her three guests have been there, and they’re here to offer advice on how to let go of your previous tasks and mindset so you don’t fall into micromanaging. Instead, they say, why not set clearer expectations, increase your team’s skills, and create a culture of accountability? They’ll share what they’ve said and done to get those results—and how loosening their grip ended up serving them well and offering relief. Guest expert: Lia Garvin runs a consulting business that advises companies on team operations, which was her specialty when she previously worked at Google. She’s the author of The Unstoppable Team and Unstuck. Resources: ---“ [How to Stop Micromanaging and Start Empowering] (https://hbr.org/2022/09/how-to-stop-micromanaging-and-start-empowering) ,” by Lia Garvin ---“ [How to Get Involved Without Micromanaging People] (https://hbr.org/2011/03/how-to-get-involved-without-mi.html) ,” by Linda Hill and Kent Lineback ---“ [A Guide for New Middle Managers] (https://hbr.org/2024/02/a-guide-for-new-middle-managers) ,” by Gloria St. Martin-Lowry --- [HBR’s 10 Must Reads for Mid-Level Managers] (https://store.hbr.org/product/hbr-s-10-must-reads-for-mid-level-managers-paperback-ebook/1135BN) , by Harvard Business Review Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

03 Jun 2024

44 MINS

44:36

03 Jun 2024

#138

Attend Women at Work Live May 16

We’ve planned a half-day of learning, guidance, and inspiration—all virtual. Here’s the agenda: 1--Executive coach Dorie Clark on working with the ambition you’ve got right now, whether you’re making every effort to get promoted or are taking a break from striving. She’ll help you recognize when it’s best to slow down or ramp up. 2--Organizational psychologist Ruchi Sinha’s latest research findings on trust: how to measure the amount felt between team members, and what to do if it’s imbalanced. Plus, she’ll explain the upsides of switching between different kinds of leadership styles, and she’ll illustrate how to do that. 3--DEI strategist Lily Zheng on the power of data to correct discrimination, design fair processes, and demonstrate a company’s progress toward diversity, equity, and inclusion. They’ll also describe the positive and negative moves companies are making and how to have influence within yours. 4--The Amys on…whatever guidance you and other attendees need related to leading a team, dealing with conflict, negotiating, or something else. Email your question ahead of time to [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) , or drop it into the chat during the session. Tickets are $60 for Harvard Business Review subscribers and $75 for everyone else. A ticket will also give you access to a replay of the event recording. [Register here] (https://events.bizzabo.com/588752) . Interested in buying a bunch of tickets for your team, department, or entire company? Email [WAWLive@hbr.org] (mailto:WAWLive@hbr.org) to learn about group discounts. See you there! ... Read more

16 Apr 2024

02 MINS

02:35

16 Apr 2024

#137

The Essentials: Handling Fierce Criticism

If you’re in a leadership role, or any role where you’re putting yourself and your ideas out there in an outspoken and visible way, chances are that at some point people are going to criticize you, sometimes fiercely, sometimes publicly. Are you ready for that? Two women who’ve felt the heat because of decisions they’ve made or arguments they’ve put forward—or simply because of who they are—reflect on the ways they’ve steeled themselves for harsh critiques and dealt with the fallout. Patti Neuhold-Ravikumar describes the preparation and the presence of mind she summoned as a university president communicating contentious budget cuts. Ruchika Tulshyan brings her expertise in DEI and women’s leadership to contextualize those experiences, and she describes her own experiences with online harassment and how she’s dealt with skeptics. Listening to them recount how they responded to fierce criticism will hopefully help you think about how you might respond, both when you see it coming and when you don’t. Guest experts: [Ruchika Tulshyan] (https://hbr.org/search?term=ruchika%20tulshyan&search_type=search-all) is the author of the book [Inclusion on Purpose: An Intersectional Approach to Creating a Culture of Belonging at Work] (https://www.amazon.com/Inclusion-Purpose-Intersectional-Approach-Belonging/dp/0262046555) . She is the founder of [Candour] (https://www.rtulshyan.com/candour) , an inclusion strategy firm. Patti Neuhold-Ravikumar is an executive coach who was previously the president and CEO of the University of Central Oklahoma. Resources: ---“ [How Leaders Should Handle Public Criticism] (https://hbr.org/2022/12/how-leaders-should-handle-public-criticism) ,” by Ron Carucci ---“ [How to Be Resilient in the Face of Harsh Criticism] (https://hbr.org/2019/06/how-to-be-resilient-in-the-face-of-harsh-criticism) ,” by Joseph Grenny ---“ [How to Take Criticism Well] (https://hbr.org/2019/04/how-to-take-criticism-well?ab=at_art_art_1x4_s03) ,” by Sabina Nawaz ---“ [In a Crisis, Great Leaders Prioritize Listening] (https://hbr.org/2022/09/in-a-crisis-great-leaders-prioritize-listening) ,” by Erika James and Lynn Perry Wooten Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

25 Mar 2024

35 MINS

35:27

25 Mar 2024

#136

The Essentials: Setting and Maintaining Boundaries

We all need to set boundaries, even in the most structured jobs, because work has its way of encroaching on the rest of our life. Ashley, a senior analyst for the federal government, recently shifted to a schedule that helps her do her most important work and have some alone time before her family gets home. Now she’s trying to figure out how to further minimize interruptions, deal with slow and busy stretches, and get out of unproductive meetings. Amy G and executive coach Melody Wilding talk through adjustments Ashley can make and things she can say to achieve those goals. They also offer strategies for how to communicate your new limits with colleagues and how to hold the line when your boundaries inevitably get tested. Guest expert:  Melody Wilding is an executive coach and the author of [Trust Yourself: Stop Overthinking and Channel Your Emotions for Success at Work] (https://melodywilding.com/book) . Resources: ---“ [How to Set Healthy Boundaries When Starting a New Job] (https://hbr.org/2022/04/how-to-set-healthy-boundaries-when-starting-a-new-job) ,” by Melody Wilding ---“ [What to Do When Work Is Slow] (https://hbr.org/2019/05/what-to-do-when-work-is-slow) ,” by Elizabeth Grace Saunders ---“ [How to Protect Your Boundaries When Your Company Is Struggling] (https://hbr.org/2024/03/how-to-protect-your-boundaries-when-your-company-is-struggling) ,” by Susan Peppercorn ---“ [Set Better Boundaries] (https://hbr.org/2021/01/set-better-boundaries) ,” by Priscilla Claman ---“ [Set These 5 Boundaries Before You Go on Vacation] (https://hbr.org/2023/05/set-these-5-boundaries-before-you-go-on-vacation) ,” by Marlo Lyons Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

18 Mar 2024

41 MINS

41:42

18 Mar 2024

#135

The Essentials: Building and Repairing Trust

Trust smooths the way for collaboration, conflict resolution, and influence. But how do you build this asset? And how do you repair it when you’ve missed a series of important deadlines or otherwise messed up? Organizational psychologist Ruchi Sinha talks with a listener who’s struggling to restore skeptics’ confidence in her and her team. Ruchi shares the three elements of trust and how to convey each one. She also offers advice on what to do if you’ve failed to acknowledge a broken promise and how to communicate practically when confidentiality prevents you from being totally transparent. Guest expert: Ruchi Sinha is an associate professor of organizational behavior at the University of South Australia Business School. Her research explores how voice, conflict, and power dynamics influence work relationships and performance outcomes. Resources: ---“ [New to the Team? Here’s How to Build Trust (Remotely)] (https://hbr.org/2021/03/new-to-the-team-heres-how-to-build-trust-remotely) ,” by Ruchi Sinha ---“ [How High-Performing Teams Build Trust] (https://hbr.org/2024/01/how-high-performing-teams-build-trust) ,” by Ron Friedman ---“ [10 Pitfalls That Destroy Organizational Trust] (https://hbr.org/2023/10/10-pitfalls-that-destroy-organizational-trust) ,” by Frances X. Frei and Anne Morriss ---“ [What to Do When You Don’t Trust Your Employee] (https://hbr.org/2015/09/what-to-do-when-you-dont-trust-your-team) ,” by Dina Denham Smith ---“ [How to Build Trust at Work] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2023/11/how-to-build-trust-at-work?ab=at_art_pod_1x4_s03) ,” from the HBR on Leadership podcast Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

11 Mar 2024

46 MINS

46:29

11 Mar 2024

#134

The Essentials: Executive Presence

Executive presence is a mix of gravitas, communication skills, and appearance. But how do you learn to command a room if you only have a few opportunities to be in front of your colleagues, except for the occasional video call? This is the situation that one of our listeners is in. She joins Amy B and two other women who’ve each cultivated a strong executive presence, Megan Bock and Laura Sicola, to get advice on what hers can look and sound like. In this episode, you’ll learn how to improve your own influence and impact, keep a virtual audience engaged, and grow while staying true to yourself. Guest experts: Megan Bock is the chief operating officer at Federato, a company that uses machine learning to assess risk. Cultivating an executive presence helped her rise up through the insurance industry and into tech. Laura Sicola is a cognitive linguist who coaches leaders on communicating strategically. She hosts the podcast [Speaking to Influence] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/speaking-to-influence/id1515649028) , and she wrote the book [Speaking to Influence: Master Your Leadership Voice] (https://www.amazon.com/Speaking-Influence-Mastering-Leadership-Voice/dp/194878730X) . Resources: ---“ [The New Rules of Executive Presence] (https://hbr.org/2024/01/the-new-rules-of-executive-presence) ,” by Sylvia Ann Hewlett ---“ [If You Want To Lead, Master This Skill] (https://hbr.org/2021/06/if-you-want-to-lead-master-this-skill) ,” by Dina Denham Smith ---“ [Gravitas Is a Quality You Can Develop] (https://hbr.org/2020/09/gravitas-is-a-quality-you-can-develop) ,” by Rebecca Newton ---“ [To Sound Like a Leader, Think About What You Say, and How and When You Say It] (https://hbr.org/2017/10/to-sound-like-a-leader-think-about-what-you-say-and-how-and-when-you-say-it) ,” by Rebecca Shambaugh Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

04 Mar 2024

43 MINS

43:24

04 Mar 2024

#133

Sexism Is Everywhere

Sexism is everywhere in workplaces, from people’s expectations about how women look and act to companies’ inadequate or unfair parental leave policies. Still, it can be shocking when you realize—or suspect—that you’re the target of that bias. Perhaps you sense someone is interrupting you over and over because you’re a woman. Or, you receive an end-of-year rating that just doesn’t align with your actual performance, and no one can (or will) explain the discrepancy. Is there any way to know for sure whether something that a colleague or client did—or neglected to do—is sexism? When is confronting that person worth it? And if you’ll never know what drove their actions, how do you make peace with the uncertainty? Amy G talks through these questions with two professors who study perceptions and gender stereotypes. Guest experts:   Katie Coffman is an economist and professor at Harvard Business School, where she studies how stereotypes impact our beliefs about ourselves Michelle Duguid is a professor and the associate dean of diversity, inclusion, and belonging at Cornell.  Resources: ---“ [Dismantling ‘Benevolent’ Sexism] (https://hbr.org/2022/06/dismantling-benevolent-sexism) ,” by Negin Sattari et al. ---“ [Unconscious Bias Training That Works] (https://hbr.org/2021/09/unconscious-bias-training-that-works) ,” by Francesca Gino and Katherine Coffman ---“ [Why Most Performance Evaluations Are Biased, and How to Fix Them] (https://hbr.org/2019/01/why-most-performance-evaluations-are-biased-and-how-to-fix-them) ,” by Lori Nishiura Mackenzie et al. ---“ [Research: How Bias Against Women Persists in Female-Dominated Workplaces] (https://hbr.org/2022/03/research-how-bias-against-women-persists-in-female-dominated-workplaces) ,” by Amy Diehl Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

04 Dec 2023

47 MINS

47:45

04 Dec 2023

#132

Is Entrepreneurship Right for Me? (from New Here)

It’s a question that so many of us are grappling with. Should I quit the corporate life that may not feel quite right for me, and pursue my passion project? You may have worries about the financial risks, stability, and what your future looks like with less of a roadmap. Today we’ll help you think through the possibilities and trade-offs, as we learn from one woman’s experiences leaving corporate life to build her own business. This episode is from [New Here] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-here/id1705031803?mt=2) , a new podcast for young professionals from Harvard Business Review. Each week, host Elainy Mata shares stories, tips, and advice from trusted experts and the people who help her figure out career challenges—like her therapist and mentors. Season One focuses on those “big firsts” that happen in any new job—like your first big mistake or how to ask for a raise. In this episode, we follow Jemma Sbeg as she leaves her successful consulting career to pursue her passion project—her now-hit podcast, [The Psychology of your 20s] (https://open.spotify.com/show/2HGcJRYrjGnpce6bRp8UXm) . First we hear from Jemma on her first day of working for herself—to learn how she made the decision to leave her full-time job and what her hopes and fears are for her new work life. Then Jemma returns for a second conversation, after she’s been working on her own for five months. You’ll learn which of Jemma’s fears were warranted, how she battled loneliness, managed her money, and whether or not she is actually happier working for herself. You can listen to all of season one of New Here at [https://hbr.org/podcasts/new-here] (https://hbr.org/podcasts/new-here) or wherever you get your podcasts. ... Read more

30 Nov 2023

43 MINS

43:09

30 Nov 2023

#131

Ever Consider Joining a Board?

Being on a board is a chance to grow—your mind, your skills, your network, your impact. It’s also another time commitment to fit in, and, for some women, another environment where they have to fight to be heard. So, is the payoff worth the effort? Yes, according to the eight women who volunteered to speak about their experience serving on boards of companies, nonprofits, and schools. They share how they landed a seat, gained confidence in the role, and found unexpected personal and professional benefits in the work. We hope that their perspectives and advice will inspire you to consider trying it yourself some day. Ellen Zane, who runs a Harvard workshop for women interested in board work, provides further insight based on her years of experience as a director for nonprofits and private and public companies. Guest expert: Ellen Zane directs the [Women on Boards: Getting on and Adding Value] (https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/ecpe/programs/women-on-boards/) annual program through Harvard’s School of Public Health ( [here’s the application] (https://hsphit.tfaforms.net/f/application?prefix=WOB&_gl=1*crpbx*_ga*MTY1MjQ1NTkxMy4xNjk4NzA5MzI3*_ga_J4XYGFMG9Z*MTcwMDU3MzI2Mi42LjAuMTcwMDU3MzI2My41OS4wLjA.) for the next one, April 18–19, 2024). She’s the former CEO of Tufts Medical Center, and she’s on the board of directors for several nonprofits and private and public companies. Resources: ---“ [Research: Board Experience Is Helping More Women Get CEO Jobs] (https://hbr.org/2019/07/research-board-experience-is-helping-more-women-get-ceo-jobs) ,” by Catherine H. Tinsley and Kate Purmal ---“ [How Women on Boards Navigate the ‘Warmth-Competence’ Line] (https://hbr.org/2023/01/how-women-on-boards-navigate-the-warmth-competence-line) ,” by Tiffany Trzebiatowski et al. ---“ [Research: How Women Improve Decision-Making on Boards] (https://hbr.org/2023/11/research-how-women-improve-decision-making-on-boards) ,” by Margarethe Wiersema and Marie Louise Mors ---“ [Are You Ready to Serve on a Board?] (https://hbr.org/2020/01/are-you-ready-to-serve-on-a-board) ” by Anthony Hesketh et al. ---“ [10 Proactive Questions Every Board Member Should Be Asking] (https://hbr.org/2021/04/10-proactive-questions-every-board-member-should-be-asking) ,” by Andrew White et al. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

27 Nov 2023

47 MINS

47:20

27 Nov 2023

#130

Ask the Amys

What if one of your first assignments at a new job was to fire people? What should you do if the person leading a project you’re on isn’t giving clear direction, demands that you work nights and weekends, bristles at your feedback—and leadership tells you to fall in line? These are two of the five situations that Amy B and Amy G talk through in this episode. They offer advice to the women who wrote in with their questions, with the hope that it will help them and anyone who’s been in a similar situation, or might be one unfortunate day.  Resources: --- [When You Work in a Male-Dominated Industry] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2019/12/when-you-work-in-a-male-dominated-industry) , from Women at Work ---“ [Begin with Trust] (https://hbr.org/2020/05/begin-with-trust) ,” by Frances X. Frei and Anne Morriss ---“ [When You Have to Carry Out a Decision You Disagree With] (https://hbr.org/2018/02/when-you-have-to-carry-out-a-decision-you-disagree-with) ,” by Art Markman ---“ [A Tool to Help You Reach Your Goals in 4 Steps] (https://hbr.org/2015/10/a-tool-to-help-you-reach-your-goals-in-4-steps) ,” by Heidi Grant ---“ [Getting Along: My Coworker Is Sabotaging Me — and My Boss Won’t Help] (https://hbr.org/2023/08/getting-along-my-coworker-is-sabotaging-me-and-my-boss-wont-help) ,” by Amy Gallo ---“ [How to Recover from a Toxic Job] (https://hbr.org/2022/10/how-to-recover-from-a-toxic-job) ,” by Melody Wilding Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

20 Nov 2023

35 MINS

35:05

20 Nov 2023

#129

So Many Feelings. Too Many?

Holding in anxiety, anger, or despair for the sake of appearing professional can feel impossible. When the emotions are just too much—your boss’s dismissive tone infuriates you, a direct report unloads, you can’t hold back tears in a meeting, a tragedy happens and you’re leading an all-staff tomorrow morning—what do you do? Liz Fosslien believes “the future of work is emotional.” The Amys revisit our 2020 conversation with her and fellow organizational consultant Mollie West Duffy about the good that can come from being vulnerable with colleagues, then Fosslien returns to help us reassess where the line between vulnerability and oversharing is today. Resources: --- [No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work] (https://www.lizandmollie.com/book) , by Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy --- [Big Feelings: How to Be Okay When Things Are Not Okay] (https://www.lizandmollie.com/big-feelings) , by Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy ---“ [Handling Negative Emotions in a Way that’s Good for Your Team] (https://hbr.org/2019/06/handling-negative-emotions-in-a-way-thats-good-for-your-team) ,” by Emma Seppälä and Christina Bradley ---“ [How to Control Your Emotions During a Difficult Conversation] (https://hbr.org/2017/12/how-to-control-your-emotions-during-a-difficult-conversation) ,” by Amy Gallo ---“ [New Managers Shouldn’t Be Afraid to Express Their Emotions] (https://hbr.org/2017/06/new-managers-shouldnt-be-afraid-to-express-their-emotions) ,” by Kristi Hedges Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

13 Nov 2023

58 MINS

58:41

13 Nov 2023

#128

Should I Change My Last Name?

If you’re engaged, this question is probably going to come up. Have you ever thought about what you would do (if you have plans to marry), or reflected on the decision you made (if you’re already married)? To what extent did your professional accomplishments and aspirations factor into your decision to keep or change your last name? Our associate producer, Hannah Bates, is engaged, and she talks out the rationale behind her decision to keep her name with three recently married women (one who kept her name and two who changed theirs), and they share what the decision-making process was like for them. Hannah and the Amys then join former co-host Nicole Torres, who first raised this question on our show and encouraged us to do this episode in the first place. Resources:   ---“ [How to Change Your Name and Keep Your Professional Identity] (https://hbr.org/2014/12/how-to-change-your-name-and-keep-your-professional-identity) ,” by Dorie Clark ---“ [8 in 10 Women Married to Men Still Take Husband’s Last Name, Survey Finds] (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/07/about-eight-in-ten-women-in-opposite-sex-marriages-say-they-took-their-husbands-last-name/) ,” from Pew Research Center ---“ [The Japanese Public Broadly Supports Legalizing Dual-Surname Option for Married Couples] (https://aparc.fsi.stanford.edu/news/japanese-public-broadly-supports-legalizing-dual-surname-option-married-couples#:~:text=In%20Japan%2C%20married%20couples%20are,of%20married%20women%20do%20so.) ,” from the Stanford’s Asia-Pacific Research Center Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

06 Nov 2023

46 MINS

46:53

06 Nov 2023

#127

ADHD Is Different for Women

ADHD can mess with a person’s ability to remember responsibilities and deadlines, start and stop projects, and show up as the on-top-of-everything employee that a boss expects. For women, these symptoms are also in direct contrast to what society expects us to be: attentive, organized, self-controlled. If you have ADHD, getting practical support from colleagues and emotional support from others in the same boat is essential to reaching your potential at work. Two women who have ADHD—one’s a psychologist and the other a life coach—explain the many different ways that this chronic, brain-based disorder manifests, and how hormonal fluctuations factor in. They point out coping mechanisms that might actually be making your life harder, and give advice for creating the structure and accountability you need in your job. Guests: Kathleen Nadeau is a psychologist, the clinical director of The Chesapeake Center, and author of many books about ADHD, including her latest, Still Distracted After All These Years. Kristen Carder hosts the podcast I Have ADHD and runs a group coaching program called Focused. Resources: ---“ [ADHD, Neurodiversity, and Bias] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2021/07/adhd-neurodiversity-and-bias) ,” from The Anxious Achiever ---“ [5 Ways to Focus at Work, from an Executive Who’s Struggled with ADHD] (https://hbr.org/2017/09/5-ways-to-focus-at-work-from-an-executive-whos-struggled-with-adhd) ,” by Jack Kosakowski ---“ [Feeling Disengaged at Work? Find Someone to Hold You Accountable] (https://hbr.org/2022/01/feeling-disengaged-at-work-find-someone-to-hold-you-accountable) ,” by Deborah Grayson Riegel ---“ [Is Your Company Inclusive of Neurodivergent Employees?] (https://hbr.org/2022/02/is-your-company-inclusive-of-neurodivergent-employees) ” by Michael Bernick ---“ [How Women with ADHD Can Transform the Challenges of a Late Diagnosis] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht_Vx0kzVf8) ,” from ADDitude Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

30 Oct 2023

57 MINS

57:23

30 Oct 2023

#126

Navigating Your Career When You Have a Disability

About one in 10 working women have a disability, whether it’s apparent or not. And how those women navigate the workplace is different from how the average neurotypical, fully able-bodied woman does, largely because of pervasive ableism. To learn more about that experience, we’re talking with Meredith Koch and Nicole Bettè. They’re engineers who both use wheelchairs and advocate for employees with disabilities. In this episode, they reflect on their careers and times when they’ve felt supported—and when they haven’t, all with the hope that you’ll be able to better advocate for yourself and your colleagues. In their stories are also lessons for managers about how best to respond to team members’ requests for accommodations, and how to help accommodate employees who might not know what’s available or even what they need. Resources: ---“ [People with Disabilities Are an Untapped Talent Pool] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2023/09/people-with-disabilities-are-an-untapped-talent-pool) ,” from HBR IdeaCast ---“ [Make It Safe for Employees to Disclose Their Disabilities] (https://hbr.org/2021/06/make-it-safe-for-employees-to-disclose-their-disabilities) ,” by Laurie Henneborn ---“ [Do Your D&I Efforts Include People with Disabilities?] (https://hbr.org/2020/03/do-your-di-efforts-include-people-with-disabilities) ” by Caroline Casey ---“ [The Case for Improving Work for People with Disabilities Goes Way Beyond Compliance] (https://hbr.org/2017/12/the-case-for-improving-work-for-people-with-disabilities-goes-way-beyond-compliance) ,” by Laura Sherbin and Julia Taylor Kennedy ---“ [Disability as a Source of Competitive Advantage] (https://hbr.org/2023/07/disability-as-a-source-of-competitive-advantage) ,” by Luisa Alemany and Freek Vermeulen Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

23 Oct 2023

50 MINS

50:12

23 Oct 2023

#125

Let’s Talk About Our Failures

Have you had something go wrong at work? Like really wrong? How much of it do you feel was your fault? And are you still trying to move past it? The Amys and their former co-host Sarah Green Carmichael revisit times they majorly messed up, in hopes that you’ll feel better about your experiences with failure. We’re not talking about honest mistakes with simple solutions; we’re talking about larger problems that were difficult and costly to correct. They share what happened, how they recovered, and what they learned. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

16 Oct 2023

43 MINS

43:48

16 Oct 2023

#124

October 16, the Amys Are Back

How do you recover from a failure? What’s it really like—and what does it take—to serve on a board? Do our career aspirations influence our decision, if and when we marry somebody, to keep or change our last name? How does going through a divorce affect us at work, and for how long? If we have a disability, how can we get the understanding and assistive technology we need to do our job? These questions are at the heart of some of the conversations the Amys are having this season with women who’ve been there. As always, we’ll be bringing you expertise, stories, and advice. Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

09 Oct 2023

06 MINS

06:03

09 Oct 2023

#123

Women Who Are Making Work Better for Women

When you see potential for your company to improve in some way—whether it’s to overhaul an outdated policy, round out benefits, or to make jobs more workable, how can you instigate change? Three women who Amy B interviewed during Women at Work’s April 27 live virtual event saw that potential and carried it through, to programs and policies that are making a difference: Myra Orndoff, a senior manager at Capital One, campaigned for the company to create more part-time tech jobs after she went part time herself as a way to stay in the workforce while raising four kids. Stephanie LeBlanc, who leads Google’s global programming for women of color, launched and continues to refine an annual summit that’s become a focal point of the multinational’s DEI strategy because of the positive effects it’s had on retention and advancement. Becky Guenther persuaded Rehmann, the financial services firm where she leads HR, to give its employees free maternity, eldercare, and mental health counseling. What can we learn from their advocacy and persuasion skills? How are they tracking their programs’ impact on women’s health, representation, and job satisfaction—and what are the results so far? How can you follow their lead? They fill us in. Resources: ---“ [How to Push for Policy Changes at Your Company] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2022/11/how-to-push-for-policy-changes-at-your-company) ,” by Women at Work ---“ [Rekindling a Sense of Community at Work] (https://hbr.org/2022/08/rekindling-a-sense-of-community-at-work) ,” by Christine Porath and Carla Piñeyro Sublett ---“ [To Implement Change, You Don’t Need to Convince Everyone at Once] (https://hbr.org/2023/05/to-implement-change-you-dont-need-to-convince-everyone-at-once) ,” Greg Satell ---“ [7 Metrics to Measure Your Organization’s DEI Progress] (https://hbr.org/2023/05/7-metrics-to-measure-your-organizations-dei-progress) ,” by Lee Jourdan Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

17 Jul 2023

35 MINS

35:13

17 Jul 2023

#122

Communicating Effectively When You’re Running on Empty

Communicating clearly and persuasively sets you up to have the impact and influence you’re after. But what if you’re running on empty? Expressing your ideas and giving direction when you’re sleep-deprived, burned out, grieving, or in perimenopausal brain fog…can feel nearly impossible. So, what then? Leadership development coach Muriel Wilkins talks us through communication techniques that meet you where you’re at mentally and emotionally so that you can rise to the moment (even when you’re worried you can’t). Guest expert: Muriel Wilkins is the co-founder of the executive coaching and leadership development firm Paravis Partners. She hosts the HBR podcast [Coaching Real Leaders] (https://hbr.org/2020/12/podcast-coaching-real-leaders) . ---Resources: ---“ [How to Communicate a Tough Decision to Your Team] (https://hbr.org/2023/04/how-to-communicate-a-tough-decision-to-your-team) ,” by Joseph Grenny ---“ [When You Have to Carry Out a Decision You Disagree With] (https://hbr.org/2018/02/when-you-have-to-carry-out-a-decision-you-disagree-with) ,” by Art Markman ---“ [How to Look and Sound Confident During a Presentation] (https://hbr.org/2019/10/how-to-look-and-sound-confident-during-a-presentation) ,” by Carmine Gallo ---“ [How to Give and Receive Compliments at Work] (https://hbr.org/2019/10/how-to-give-and-receive-compliments-at-work) ,” by Christopher Littlefield ---“ [How to Be a Compassionate Manager in a Heartless Organization] (https://hbr.org/2022/05/how-to-be-a-compassionate-manager-in-a-heartless-organization) ,” by Liz Kislik Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

03 Jul 2023

34 MINS

34:16

03 Jul 2023

#121

How to Manage: Finding Yourself Again

Assuming responsibility for someone else’s professional development and happiness changes you. But is it for the worse or for the better? The feelings can be mixed until you’re able to build your identity and confidence back up. Somehow this self-discovery has to happen while you’re meeting deadlines and feeling pressure to commit to more. How will you ever fit time in for your own professional development? Should career growth really feel this overwhelming? Jen Dary regularly coaches first-time managers on questions like, “Who are you now?” “Who do you want to be?” and “How can you stretch without taking on too much?” She shares advice for finding yourself again, dealing with disillusionment, and setting priorities and boundaries. Then, a former guest who’s one year into leading a major project tells us about her aha moments. Finally, Kelsey answers the question of whether or not she’s ready to try management again. Guest expert:  Jen Dary trains and develops managers through her coaching business, [Plucky] (http://beplucky.com/) . She hosts the Be Plucky Podcast. Resources: ---“ [When Changing Jobs Changes Your Identity] (https://hbr.org/2022/11/when-changing-jobs-changes-your-identity) ,” by Sarah Wittman ---“ [Becoming the Boss] (https://hbr.org/2007/01/becoming-the-boss) ,” by Linda Hill ---“ [How to Focus on What’s Important, Not Just What’s Urgent] (https://hbr.org/2018/07/how-to-focus-on-whats-important-not-just-whats-urgent) ,” by Alice Boyes --- [You, the Leader (HBR Women at Work Series)] (https://store.hbr.org/product/you-the-leader-hbr-women-at-work-series/10525) , by Harvard Business Review ---“ [Perfect Is the Enemy] (https://hbr.org/podcast/2018/10/perfect-is-the-enemy) ,” by Women at Work Sign up for the Women at Work [newsletter] (https://hbr.org/email-newsletters?movetile=womenatwork) . Email us: [womenatwork@hbr.org] (mailto:womenatwork@hbr.org) ... Read more

26 Jun 2023

39 MINS

39:31

26 Jun 2023