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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Alex Kretzshmar joins Adam for a trip down the Linux rabbit hole – Docker vs Podman, building a Kubernetes cluster, ZFS backups with zfs.rent, bootc, favorite Linux distros, new homelab tools built with AI, self-hosting Immich, content creation, Plex and Jellyfin, the future of piracy and more.
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<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/product/CLI">Augment Code</a> – Adam loves “Auggie” – Augment Code’s CLI that brings Augment’s context engine and powerful AI reasoning anywhere your code goes. From building alongside you in the terminal to any part of your development workflow.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Alex Kretzschmar &ndash; <a href="https://blog.ktz.me/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/ironicbadger" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-kretzschmar" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://techhub.social/@ironicbadger" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/ironicbadger" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Tailscale">Tailscale YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.docker.com">Docker</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podman.io">Podman</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kubernetes.io">Kubernetes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zfs.rent">zfs.rent</a></li>
<li><a href="https://containers.github.io/bootc/">bootc</a></li>
<li><a href="https://immich.app">Immich</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.plex.tv">Plex</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jellyfin.org">Jellyfin</a></li>
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Down the Linux rabbit hole (Friends)

We’re joined by Zipline cofounder / CTO, Keenan Wyrobek. Zipline is on a mission to build the world’s first logistics system that serves all people equally via their fleet of autonomous drones that started in Africa delivering medical supplies and can now deliver packages (up to 8 lbs) directly to your door. They’ve solved a lot of gnarly technical and regulatory challenges along the way. We go deep with Keenan. We hope you’ll find this one fascinating.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.zipline.com/">Zipline drone delivery & logistics</a></li>
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Autonomous drone delivery in a Zip (Interview)

Why AI needs hard rules (not vibe checks), what Anthropic’s acquisition of Bun’s creators tells us about the AI takeover, Jonah Glover couldn’t get Claude to recreate Space Jam’s 1996 website, Google finally unkills something, and Bazzite is a distro for the next generation of Linux gaming.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>

The "confident idiot" problem (News)

Nick Nisi joins us to dig into the latest trends from this year and how they’re impacting his day-to-day coding and Vision Pro wearing. Anthropic’s acquisition of Bun, the evolving JavaScript and AI landscape, GitHub’s challenges and the Amp/Sourcegraph split. We dive into AI development practices, context management, voice assistants, Home Assistant OS and home automation, the state of the AI browser war, and we close with a prediction from Nick.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Nick Nisi &ndash; <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com/@nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/10/apple-vision-pro-upgraded-with-the-m5-chip-and-dual-knit-band/">Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip and Dual Knit Band</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bun.com/blog/bun-joins-anthropic">Bun is joining Anthropic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-acquires-bun-as-claude-code-reaches-usd1b-milestone">Anthropic acquires Bun as Claude Code reaches $1B milestone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ampcode.com/news/amp-inc">Amp, Inc.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/674603/arc-browser-development-stopped-dia-browser-company">The Browser Company explains why it stopped developing Arc</a></li>
<li><a href="https://browsercompany.substack.com/p/letter-to-arc-members-2025">Letter to Arc members 2025</a></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/11/the-browser-company-launches-its-ai-first-browser-dia-in-beta/">The Browser Company launches Dia in beta</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/12/03/release-202512/">Home Assistant 2025.12: Triggering the holidays</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.home-assistant.io/green/">Home Assistant Green</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ziglang.org/news/migrating-from-github-to-codeberg/">Migrating from GitHub to Codeberg</a></li>
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Very important agents (Friends)

Amazon CTO, Werner Vogels, stops by to help us explore his tech predictions for 2026 and beyond. Will companionship be redefined by consumer robots? Will quantum-safe become the only safe worth talking about? Is this the dawn of the renaissance developer? We’re infinitely curious why Werner came to this particular set of conclusions. Are you?
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<li><a href="http://notion.com/changelog">Notion</a> – Notion is a place where any team can write, plan, organize, and rediscover the joy of play. It’s a workspace designed not just for making progress, but getting inspired. Notion is for everyone — whether you’re a Fortune 500 company or freelance designer, starting a new startup or a student juggling classes and clubs.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Werner Vogels &ndash; <a href="https://www.allthingsdistributed.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/wv" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wernervogels" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/werner.social" rel="external ugc">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://x.com/werner" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/18">NoSQL Smackdown! (#18)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allthingsdistributed.com/2025/11/tech-predictions-for-2026-and-beyond.html">Tech predictions for 2026 and beyond</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gray_%28computer_scientist%29">Jim Gray (computer scientist)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.fm/sotl">Leave us a state of the “log” voicemail!</a></li>
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Werner Vogels predicts the future (Interview)

Matheus Lima on what makes senior developers actually senior, Tega Brain created a browser extension for avoiding AI slop, Andrew Kelley moves Zig from GitHub to Codeberg, Matias Heikkilä says there’s no free lunch for vibe coding, and your SSD data at rest might be at risk.
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What actually makes you senior (News)

Our old friend Lars Wikman returns to the show to discuss Linux distro hopping, Elixir, Nerves, embedded systems, home automation with Home Assistant, karate, and more.
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<li><a href="https://www.framer.com/design/">Framer</a> – Design and publish in one place. Get started free at <a href="https://www.framer.com/design/">framer.com/design</a>, code <code>CHANGELOG</code> for a free month of Pro.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Lars Wikman &ndash; <a href="https://underjord.io" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/lawik" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://x.com/lawik" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://nerves-project.org/">Nerves project</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.zimaboard.com">ZimaBoard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.home-assistant.io/">Home Assistant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://n8n.io/">n8n</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.beamrad.io/">Beam Radio</a></li>
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The 4 DIMM problem (Friends)

Let’s hear how Wikipedia actually works from long-time Wikipedian, Bill Beutler! Bill has been heavily involved with this “8th wonder of the modern world” for two decades and even built a career on it, founding Beutler Ink –a digital agency known for its pioneering work in Wikipedia public relations.
We discuss: the official (and not so official) rules, the editor cabal (which isn’t one), the business model (which really isn’t one), how an edit sticks (or not), how AI chatbots threaten the future of the site (or don’t), and a whole lot more.
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<li><a href="https://www.framer.com/design/">Framer</a> – Design and publish in one place. Get started free at <a href="https://www.framer.com/design/">framer.com/design</a>, code <code>CHANGELOG</code> for a free month of Pro.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Bill Beutler &ndash; <a href="https://www.beutlerink.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/williambeutler" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://x.com/williambeutler" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_No_Cabal">There Is No Cabal</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.beutlerink.com/">Beutler Ink</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thenotability.co/">The Notability Company</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Rochko">Eugen Rochko</a></li>
</ul>
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The inner workings of Wikipedia (Interview)

Cedric Chin says comparisons of our current AI maybe-bubble to the dot-com bubble and the 2008 GFC are limiting, Matthew Prince does a post-mortem on last week’s Cloudflare outage, “hl” is a fast / powerful log viewer for humans, Enthusiast Guy’s Continuum 93 is a fantasy computer emulator, and a list of things that aren’t doing the thing.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>

What is a tech bubble anyway? (News)

<a href="https://practicalai.fm/">Practical AI</a> co-host, Chris Benson, joins us to discuss the latest advancements in AI, drones, home automation, and robotic swarming tech. Chris defines “swarm” with detail/precision and it turns out that what most people are calling a swarm today is NOT a swarm!
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<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com">Augment Code</a> – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
</li>
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</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Chris Benson &ndash; <a href="https://chrisbenson.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/chrisbenson" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbenson" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/chrisbenson" rel="external ugc">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://x.com/chrisbenson" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://practicalai.fm/">Practical AI</a></li>
<li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/17/jeff-bezos-reportedly-returns-to-the-trenches-as-co-ceo-of-new-ai-startup-project-prometheus/">Jeff Bezos takes Co-CEO role at Project Prometheus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3c4mQty_so">I Tried the First Humanoid Home Robot. It Got Weird.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ikea.com/global/en/newsroom/retail/the-new-smart-home-from-ikea-matter-compatible-251106/">IKEA launches new smart home range with 21 Matter-compatible products</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_robotics">Swarm Robotics – Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_robotic_platforms">Swarm Robotic Platforms – Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence">Swarm Intelligence – Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_robotics">Ant Robotics – Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://handbook.buildwithmatter.com/specification/">The Matter specifications</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.home-assistant.io/">Home Assistant – Open Source Home Automation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0474427/">The Besieged Fortress (2006)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://osrf.github.io/ros2multirobotbook/">Programming Multiple Robots with ROS 2</a></li>
<li><a href="https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/multi-robot-simulation-best-practices/38987">ROS 2 Multi-Robot Simulation Best Practices</a></li>
<li><a href="https://huggingface.co/agents-course">Hugging Face AI Agents Course</a></li>
<li><a href="https://embassy.dev">Embassy – Embedded async framework for Rust</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tokio.rs">Tokio – Asynchronous Runtime for Rust</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.arsturn.com/blog/the-ultimate-beginners-guide-to-self-hosting-your-own-ai">Beginner’s Guide to Self-Hosting Your Own AI</a></li>
</ul>
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NOT a swarm! (Friends)

Spencer Chang caught our attention with the <a href="https://alivetheory.net/">alive internet theory</a> website, but he creates all kinds of computery things to bring people together around play, connection, and creation. Spencer’s experiments with <a href="https://spencer.place/creation/computing-infused-objects">computing-infused objects</a> inspired him to create an entire line of <a href="https://internetsculptures.com/">internet sculptures</a> and real-world <a href="https://shrine.computer/">computing shrines</a> that will hopefully inspire all of us to keep the internet alive and flourishing for years to come.
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</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Spencer Chang &ndash; <a href="https://spencer.place" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/spencerc99" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://x.com/spencerc99" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://alivetheory.net/">Alive internet theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://internetsculptures.com/">Internet Sculptures</a></li>
<li><a href="https://shrine.computer/">Computing Shrines</a></li>
<li><a href="https://playhtml.fun/">playhtml</a></li>
</ul>
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Creating communal computers (Interview)

Nilo Stolte explains why Zig is “a totally new way to write programs”, George Mack gives twelve actionable ways to be more creative, Mario Zechner shares his findings on using MCP vs Bash tools, Josh Collinsworth compares creating AI art to medieval alchemy, LibrePods unlocks AirPods features for Android, and our first ever Changelog News Classifieds.
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</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>

Why is Zig so cool? (News)

Do you like director’s commentaries and extended cuts? This episode is like that, but for this week’s <a href="https://changelog.com/news/169">News</a>. We go deep on the alive internet theory, Meshtastic mesh networks, Zstandard compression, the FDE job explosion, React’s seemingly perpetual dominance, and more.
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</li>
<li><a href="https://depot.dev">Depot</a> – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time.
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com">Augment Code</a> – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
</li>
<li><a href="https://nordlayer.com/thechangelog">NordLayer</a> – Protect your business with NordLayer, the toggle-ready network security platform built for modern teams. VPN, access control, and threat protection—no hardware or complex setup required. Get 28% off NordLayer yearly plans this Black Friday with code <code>changelog-28</code> at <a href="https://nordlayer.com/thechangelog">nordlayer.com/thechangelog</a>
</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/news/169">Changelog News #169</a></li>
<li><a href="https://alivetheory.net/">Alive internet theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/friends/57">The Winamp era</a></li>
<li><a href="https://meshtastic.org/">Meshtastic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://facebook.github.io/zstd/">Zstandard</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.interviewquery.com/p/ai-forward-deployed-engineer-jobs-2025">FDE exploding with 800% more postings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://aifoc.us/dead-framework-theory/">Dead framework theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fly.io/blog/everyone-write-an-agent/">You should write an agent</a></li>
</ul>
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Retreat to attack (Friends)

Prolific software blogger, Sean Goedecke, joins us to discuss why he believes software engineers need to be involved in the politics of their organization, how to avoid worry driven development, what is “good taste” in software engineering, where agentic coding will take our industry, why getting the main thing right is so important, and how to get your blog to the top of Hacker News.
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</li>
<li><a href="https://depot.dev">Depot</a> – 10x faster builds? Yes please. Build faster. Waste less time. Accelerate Docker image builds, and GitHub Actions workflows. Easily integrate with your existing CI provider and dev workflows to save hours of build time.
</li>
<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com">Augment Code</a> – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
</li>
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</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Sean Goedecke &ndash; <a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/sgoedecke" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-goedecke-5495a7137" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://x.com/sjgoedecke" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com/why-do-ai-enterprise-projects-fail/">Is it worrying that 95% of AI enterprise projects fail?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com/how-to-influence-politics/">How I influence tech company politics as a staff software engineer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com/worry-driven-development/">Avoiding worry driven development</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com/taste/">What is “good taste” in software engineering?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seangoedecke.com/good-code-reviews/">Mistakes I see engineers making in their code reviews</a></li>
<li><a href="https://situational-awareness.ai/">Situational Awareness: the decade ahead</a></li>
</ul>
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DO repeat yourself! (Interview)

A new AI-led tech role has emerged with a massive increase of job postings, Corey Quinn explains why younger devs won’t tolerate pain in the AWS, Thomas Ptacek makes the case that you should write an agent, Paul Kinlan goes deeper on his dead framework theory, and Andrew Gallagher says to stop vibe coding your unit tests.
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</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>

This new AI role is exploding (News)

On this seventh iteration of our award-worthy game show filled with obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery: past winners battle to determine the champion of champions. (Also, Adam.)
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</li>
<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com">Augment Code</a> – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
</li>
<li><a href="https://agntcy.org">Outshift by Cisco</a> – The open source collective building the Internet of Agents. Backed by Outshift by Cisco, AGNTCY gives developers the tools to build and deploy multi-agent software at scale. Identity, communication protocols, and modular workflows—all in one global collaboration layer. Start building at <a href="https://agntcy.org/">AGNTCY.org</a>.
</li>
<li><a href="https://miro.com">Miro</a> – The innovation workspace for the age of AI. Built for modern teams, Miro helps you turn unstructured ideas into structured outcomes—fast. Diagramming, product design, and AI-powered collaboration, all in one shared space. <a href="https://miro.com">Start building at miro.com</a>
</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Taylor Troesh &ndash; <a href="https://taylor.town" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/surprisetalk" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/taysar" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Thomas Eckert &ndash; <a href="https://thomaseckert.dev" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/t-eckert" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-eckert" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://x.com/thomaseckert_" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Matthew Sanabria &ndash; <a href="https://matthewsanabria.dev" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/sudomateo" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sudomateo" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.online/@sudomateo" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/sudomateo" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>E. David Aja &ndash; <a href="https://edavidaja.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/edavidaja" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edavidaja" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/edavidaja.com" rel="external ugc">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@edavidaja/" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/peeltothepithy" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/topic/games">Moar game shows!</a></li>
<li><a href="https://chorus.sh/">Chorus</a></li>
</ul>
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#define: sheer resistance (Friends)

Andrew Nesbitt builds tools and open datasets to support, sustain, and secure critical digital infrastructure. He’s been exploring the world of open source metadata for over a decade. First with libraries.io and now with <a href="https://ecosyste.ms/">ecosyste.ms</a>, which tracks over 12 million packages, 287 million repos, 24.5 billion dependencies, and 1.9 million maintainers.
What has Andrew learned from all this, who is using this open dataset, and how does he hope others can build on top of it all? Tune in to find out.
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</li>
<li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com">Augment Code</a> – Developer AI that uses deep understanding of your large codebase and how you build software to deliver personalized code suggestions and insights. Augment provides relevant, contextualized code right in your IDE or Slack. It transforms scattered knowledge into code or answers, eliminating time spent searching docs or interrupting teammates.
</li>
<li><a href="https://agntcy.org">Outshift by Cisco</a> – The open source collective building the Internet of Agents. Backed by Outshift by Cisco, AGNTCY gives developers the tools to build and deploy multi-agent software at scale. Identity, communication protocols, and modular workflows—all in one global collaboration layer. Start building at <a href="https://agntcy.org/">AGNTCY.org</a>.
</li>
<li><a href="https://miro.com">Miro</a> – The innovation workspace for the age of AI. Built for modern teams, Miro helps you turn unstructured ideas into structured outcomes—fast. Diagramming, product design, and AI-powered collaboration, all in one shared space. <a href="https://miro.com">Start building at miro.com</a>
</li>
</ul>Featuring:<ul><li>Andrew Nesbitt &ndash; <a href="http://nesbitt.io/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/andrew" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://x.com/teabass" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">X</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">X</a></li></ul>Show Notes:<ul>
<li><a href="https://ecosyste.ms/">ecosyste.ms</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/ecosyste-ms/oss-taxonomy">ecosyste-ms/oss-taxonomy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://octobox.io/">Octobox</a></li>
<li><a href="https://libraries.io/">Libraries.io</a></li>
</ul>
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The world of open source metadata (Interview)

Ahmad Alfy explains how URLs are state containers, Shrivu Shankar shares how he uses every Claude Code feature, Yusuf Aytas laments how AI broke technical interviews, Wu Xiaoyun tells how he saved TikTok $300k during his internship, and TOON is a new serialization format to save us some LLM tokens.
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