Welcome to Real Science Radio with co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams who discuss the latest in science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, geology, astronomy, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) Not only do we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne, but we also occasionally interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.


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<div><div style="text-align:start">* Dino Dave:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1QvQyi-MGFwon5ZrP6bV-E" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1ptsKzPC84114feY890YP5" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;Dave Woetzel of&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/@Dino_Dave&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1P__De2-7txcuwcw0mYN5L" href="https://www.youtube.com/@Dino_Dave" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Dino Dave fame</a>&nbsp;on YouTube,&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://genesispark.com/&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw3fF3VYndHjQeDxhC9iLRYt" href="https://genesispark.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">at Genesis Park</a>, in churches, globally (and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DEphesians%25201%253A3%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw0mkidSzman7d-k8zBhR1iN" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%201%3A3&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">beyond</a>)!</div>

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<div>* Origins, Giants and the Bible:&nbsp;Hear how stories of giants in the Bible, (along&nbsp;with&nbsp;extra biblical&nbsp;legends) and the fossil record&nbsp;of giant&nbsp;organisms confirm Biblical creation.</div>

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<div>* Antediluvian&nbsp;Giants:&nbsp;Who were the "sons of God" who took&nbsp;the daughters of men as wives in&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DGen%25206%253A2%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw3XjI_tYQV2eZPTjo1WYjl1" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen%206%3A2&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Genesis 6:2</a>? Who were the "mighty men" and "men of renown in&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DGen%25206%253A4%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw38ygFfptfbukyUXutsUPRA" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen%206%3A4&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">verse 4</a>?" Were the pre-flood giants the offspring of fallen angels or men? Hear about the three common views: the Regal, Sethite and Fallen Angel theories&nbsp;of just who these giants were.
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<div>* Post Flood Giants:&nbsp;How and why did the giants of the pre-flood world seem to&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DNum%252013%253A33%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1omNHzlTFQwdr9oO27KM2R" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Num%2013%3A33&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">reappear in the Promised Land</a>&nbsp;while Israel was in Egypt and afterward, all the way up to the time of&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3D2%2520Sam%252021%253A19%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw3N5ow6d0sUmkwDunswprIm" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Sam%2021%3A19&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">King David</a>.</div>

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<div>* Goliath:&nbsp;Hear about the difference between a biblical giant like Goliath and modern "giants" like&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v%3D1626322484635002&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1Ricr8Myd-zjOCJmD84ryz" href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1626322484635002" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Robert Wadlow</a>&nbsp;who suffered&nbsp;from gigantism, (along with archaeological&nbsp;confirmation of ancient weapons&nbsp;like those described in the Bible)!</div>

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<div>* American Giants?&nbsp;Hear Dave begin to discuss how he got interested in Giants from reading a book called&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Giants-Who-Ruled-America/dp/1591431719/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3DY58KRM1XZD0C%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O0UtqrFGKWNcJg3C57fye6X5I3fUqZCzCtLfGLC2a57_GUi9wkN5blmoBquYpBdp7SC1VmjX26VGLmxGsBc4iS6FInNLO6Lh9uZHDL5JAONvhcZ-lq_0CbzJQ1efPmYDPAQmTIu6gE8QlwQdyrWc-j6tCI7SSNGL70iscafkSVbMjtNWVKQaJIQL2UdoywFj.f-byZQhgB56IK3nsCYSSTZVeNG1l5VA-Kz7VQ2ZbYhM%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3DThe%2BAncient%2BGiants%2Bwho%2BRuled%2BAmerica%26qid%3D1765431792%26sprefix%3Dthe%2Bancient%2Bgiants%2Bwho%2Bruled%2Bamerica%252Caps%252C134%26sr%3D8-1&source=gmail&ust=1765565291633000&usg=AOvVaw1etGSijmgOQMTvECb_4z-w" href="https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Giants-Who-Ruled-America/dp/1591431719/ref=sr_1_1?crid=Y58KRM1XZD0C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O0UtqrFGKWNcJg3C57fye6X5I3fUqZCzCtLfGLC2a57_GUi9wkN5blmoBquYpBdp7SC1VmjX26VGLmxGsBc4iS6FInNLO6Lh9uZHDL5JAONvhcZ-lq_0CbzJQ1efPmYDPAQmTIu6gE8QlwQdyrWc-j6tCI7SSNGL70iscafkSVbMjtNWVKQaJIQL2UdoywFj.f-byZQhgB56IK3nsCYSSTZVeNG1l5VA-Kz7VQ2ZbYhM&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Ancient+Giants+who+Ruled+America&qid=1765431792&sprefix=the+ancient+giants+who+ruled+america%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-1" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">The Ancient Giants who Ruled America</a>&nbsp;on a&nbsp;trip to the mound-builder capital of St Louis.</div>
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Giants! with Dave Woetzel Part I

<div>• Exploding Insects – Autothysis
Some ant and termite species literally blow themselves apart to defend their colony! This requires a coordinated system of enzymes, chemistry, triggers, adhesives, and control mechanisms, making it an impossible candidate for slow evolutionary development.

• Cockatoos Using Human Drinking Fountains
That's right. Listen to the show for more details on an impressive display of intelligence that challenges the “bird brain” stereotype and evolutionary assumptions about primate superiority.

• Archaeopteryx: Still 100% Bird
New analysis of a Chicago specimen shows fully formed feathers designed for flight, filling the aerodynamic gap evolutionists long claimed made flight “impossible.” Once again, a supposed “missing link” turns out to be just another bird.

• Giant Vegetables & Pre-Flood Conditions
Modern giant pumpkins and zucchinis are the result of mutations in inhibitor genes, not evolution. Their existence echoes fossil evidence of enormous pre-Flood plants and animals, consistent with higher oxygen, atmospheric pressure, and longer lifespans described in Genesis.

• Dinosaur Hemoglobin Found Again
Yet another discovery of hemoglobin in dinosaur fossils defies deep-time claims. Even generous decay estimates allow thousands, NOT MILLIONS&nbsp;of years. Evolutionists scramble for new “preservation theories,” but the simplest explanation remains: the fossils are young.

• Neanderthals: Masters of Fire & Food Engineering
Archaeologists have uncovered Ice Age hearths exceeding 600°C, revealing airflow control, fuel optimization, and consistent temperature regulation. A separate discovery of a&nbsp;bone-processing workshop&nbsp;shows Neanderthals intentionally extracting fat-rich broth, yummy!

• New Human Blood Type: Guada Negative
A recently identified blood type is incompatible with all others, making transfusions impossible.&nbsp;

• Human–Chimp DNA Myth Collapses
As full genomic sequencing improves, the often-repeated “98% similarity” myth has fallen to about&nbsp;85%, a vast gap representing millions of functional differences and rendering evolutionary timelines unworkable.

• Animals Using Natural Medicines
Chimps eat antiparasitic leaves, parrots consume detoxifying clay, elephants seek medicinal bark, and bees gather antimicrobial resins.

• Biomimicry: Penguins Inspire Engineering
A German auto company used AI to analyze penguin wing hydrodynamics, resulting in more efficient automotive fans. Once again, human engineering imitates God’s designs.

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Suicide Insects & Neanderthal Engineers

<div>* Latest Science News:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw3zMVTbz1EVGfR-qkRenB8l" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw24D-YCY2KOD229knGQApw5" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;review headlines from the world of immunotherapy and cancer research, the Epoch Times, Evolutionary Cosmology & Hydroplate Theory.

* God's Shooting Video:&nbsp;Hear a theory (that's at least as plausible as others) for how God can have eyes everywhere as&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DProv%252015%253A3%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw3_SYaIpxbATQiijiUP1S79" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov%2015%3A3&version=KJV" target="_blank">Proverbs 15:3</a>&nbsp;says!

* Gunning for Cancer:&nbsp;We'll cover the latest advances in cancer research, which sees doctors injecting one tumor with CD40 agonist antibody 2141-V11,&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://bioengineer.org/breakthrough-cancer-drug-eradicates-aggressive-tumors-in-clinical-trial/%23google_vignette&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw2S5ktYkx1UFT7KvPaYq4NO" href="https://bioengineer.org/breakthrough-cancer-drug-eradicates-aggressive-tumors-in-clinical-trial/#google_vignette" target="_blank">eliminating it, and many more</a>, using compounds&nbsp;created by the immune system God gave ya!

* Epoch Rewrite:&nbsp;Hear the story of Antarctic&nbsp;Ice that has&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251105050716.htm&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw0v4HnaQ7faq1JDqo6FHcec" href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251105050716.htm" target="_blank">defied erosion</a>&nbsp;for 6 million years, and once again rewritten a host of old earth/climate fairy tales.

* The Big Roll:&nbsp;How did frozen & fossilized tropical plants and animals end up in the arctic? And what are Mammoths&nbsp;discovered, frozen and with tropical plants, undigested in their stomachs? Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory offers&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://kgov.com/pre-flood-world&source=gmail&ust=1764362295917000&usg=AOvVaw1lr6akU3BSfpAEpFo0UEGO" href="https://kgov.com/pre-flood-world" target="_blank">a plausible explanation</a>!

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Rewriting Climate & Cancer Research

<div><div style="text-align:start">* The Oyster's Po' Boy:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw3t8P2AsCgf-WaZEQye0S22" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw3nQZW01CwNr6wYzrB4Hfn_" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;break the news about an oyster-borne&nbsp;parasite who's&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251105050710.htm&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw1xCpIaLUL-gE6ke44dq-0I" href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251105050710.htm" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">refused to evolve</a>&nbsp;for 470 million (alleged) years.</div>

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<div>* In Search of the Obvious:&nbsp;Scientists&nbsp;may have&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/scientists-may-just-figured-origin-120028883.html&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw1qLWKDB6idali27AXGOQmC" href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/scientists-may-just-figured-origin-120028883.html" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">just figured out</a>&nbsp;the origin of life! (while the rest of us have known&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/1.htm&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw1db7jUX7RsfQEURx-yL7DF" href="https://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/1.htm" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">for certain</a>&nbsp;the whole time).</div>

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<div>* Once in Lifetime?&nbsp;In an&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://kgov.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue-original-biological-material&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw2SZ0b1rI8Fe9ziBZKGa7xQ" href="https://kgov.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue-original-biological-material" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">almost unheard of</a>&nbsp;event, miners uncovered a dinosaur fossil, and then paleontologists discovered it contained skin, intact organs and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://indiandefencereview.com/dinosaur-mummy-canada-intact-skin-organs/&source=gmail&ust=1763792783540000&usg=AOvVaw2f49jsFnfAV8R-ULpqciy7" href="https://indiandefencereview.com/dinosaur-mummy-canada-intact-skin-organs/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">soft tissue</a>!</div>

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Latest News Overturns What Evolutionists Rewrote!

<div>* Pastor, Creationist, Scientist:&nbsp;This&nbsp;week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw1q9STWnw5wLHBw8CcIej2B" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc; text-align:justify; font-size:small; font-weight:normal; box-sizing:border-box" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw11vMJqvB1CuUpffWAp4GrU" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc; text-align:justify; font-size:small; font-weight:normal; box-sizing:border-box" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;Pastor Kevin Lea, (<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://calvarypo.org/&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw0WHG9MCuBSen7c1GAYTcWf" href="http://calvarypo.org/" style="color:#1155cc; text-align:justify; font-size:small; font-weight:normal; box-sizing:border-box" target="_blank">calvarypo.org</a>)&nbsp;HPT expert and graduate of the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/powering-navy&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw042aqnGmKOBulsGqT0X2ni" href="https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/powering-navy" style="color:#1155cc; text-align:justify; font-size:small; font-weight:normal; box-sizing:border-box" target="_blank">Navy's Nuclear Propulsion Program</a>&nbsp;to comment on the latest article published in the creation science literature referring&nbsp;to Hydroplate Theory.


* Predictions:&nbsp;are the hard&nbsp;currency of real&nbsp;science,&nbsp;and Hydroplate Theory is brimming with&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://hydroplate.org/videos/table?page%3D1&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw0X0UVADNO6uv-bCcSun8Ej" href="https://hydroplate.org/videos/table?page=1" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">confirmed predictions</a>,&nbsp;while the Plate Tectonics model (promoted&nbsp;by the "good 'ole boy" network in the "creationism industry") has none.

* The "A." In Edward A. Isaacs:&nbsp;...appears to stand for "John R Baumgardner", and because of the Baumgardner/Isaacs "Axis of Incompetence" the reputation&nbsp;of&nbsp;creation science literature&nbsp;is in danger of devolving to the level of fables: namely&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/wp-content/CRSQ%2520Fall%25202025%2520Isaacs%2520b.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1763175083881000&usg=AOvVaw1ELTVEQK2LJATwcYC8Jy5u" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/wp-content/CRSQ%20Fall%202025%20Isaacs%20b.pdf" style="color:#1155cc; box-sizing:border-box" target="_blank">THIS FABLE</a>&nbsp;spun out in the latest issue of the CRSQ

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Hydroplate Controversy Part II

<div>* Pastor, Creationist, Scientist:&nbsp;This&nbsp;week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw2QxxcYUFMFVwIMvW2gR0-F" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw0u9hVjhKri6-2DvszoNH0H" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;Pastor Kevin Lea, (<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://calvarypo.org&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw3zml1knRpsgYZY5hdjVJrC" href="http://calvarypo.org/" target="_blank">calvarypo.org</a>)&nbsp;HPT expert and graduate of the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/powering-navy&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw3Dz9p9i0I7hQTrL4p7Qubl" href="https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/powering-navy" target="_blank">Navy's Nuclear Propulsion Program</a>&nbsp;to comment on the latest article published in the creation science literature referring&nbsp;to Hydroplate Theory.

* What are Asteroids Made of?&nbsp;Nobody knows for&nbsp;sure. We do have what spectrometry&nbsp;has shown us on the surface&nbsp;of asteroids and other CATNOs, (and we have the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasas-asteroid-bennu-sample-reveals-mix-of-lifes-ingredients/&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw0_UDtxM-jA9OrAl7n29wDf" href="https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasas-asteroid-bennu-sample-reveals-mix-of-lifes-ingredients/" target="_blank">5 ounces or so</a>&nbsp;of samples recovered from the surfaces&nbsp;of various bodies in space). Hydroplate Theory predicts the presence of granite, olivine, and other substances found commonly&nbsp;on Earth.


* The "A." In Edward A. Isaacs:&nbsp;...appears to stand for "John R Baumgardner", and because of the Baumgardner/Isaacs "Axis of Incompetence" the reputation&nbsp;of&nbsp;creation science literature&nbsp;is in danger of devolving to the level of fables: namely&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/wp-content/CRSQ%2520Fall%25202025%2520Isaacs%2520b.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1762578823943000&usg=AOvVaw1fyei6_r7Fyb0gFd3oHwuQ" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/wp-content/CRSQ%20Fall%202025%20Isaacs%20b.pdf" target="_blank">THIS FABLE</a>&nbsp;spun out in the latest issue of the CRSQ.

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Hydroplate Controversy Part I

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<div>* Guest Duane Bartley:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw2bDhRXUZpWgcmk2tGzw-_l" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw0IZxudZGoQp7Emg2FlyBUX" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;Welcome Duane Bartley, (EE), Vice President of the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youngearth.org/&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw0wUzMdbgq51HDs-eXeQSb_" href="https://www.youngearth.org/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship</a>&nbsp;and an experienced engineer in the<span style="font-family:system-ui, -apple-system, "system-ui", "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, Oxygen, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"">&nbsp;Utilities, Defense & Space industries.</div>

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<div>* Expert Opinion:&nbsp;Hear the story of how an&nbsp;errant "expert" opinion&nbsp;about peanut sensitivity&nbsp;found its way into pediatrician's advice&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10920165/&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw0XYCKpq9YYFI9bTKU-HlH1" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10920165/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">about 25 years ago</a>, and contributed to a dramatic rise in peanut allergies, (and how exposing kids to peanuts early on is&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/peanut-allergies-60000-kids-avoided-2015-advice/&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw1MCCPpu3u-JCLIyOyvCFbn" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/peanut-allergies-60000-kids-avoided-2015-advice/" style="color:#1155cc; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"" target="_blank">now proven</a>&nbsp;to be the better advice).</div>

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* Scientific Telephone:&nbsp;Duane explains how otherwise brilliant minds end up accepting ridiculous fables like evolution because they assume the other scientists who specialize in fields like evolutionary&nbsp;biology and geology are as smart and conscientious as they are.</div>

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<div dir="auto" style="text-align:start">* Settled Science:&nbsp;Hear all about the missing links, the evolutionary miracles, "total upending" and "explosions"&nbsp;of life (and death) one must accept to assert that the world was not created by the God of the Bible.</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* Deception & Deceit:&nbsp;Many scientists who go along with evolution and other lies of "settled science" are simply deceived, and don't have a malevolent&nbsp;motivation. But we're reminded that even&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DLev%25205%253A17%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw0N95zeocErdXSCTmV7CIK2" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Lev%205%3A17&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">ignorance</a>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DHos%25204%253A6%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw053bAJNuf90pbP6H_ZsbG0" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hos%204%3A6&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">sin</a>, as is&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search%3DPro%252024%253A9%26version%3DKJV&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw13v6WhWvCg63hwJgKT66eQ" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Pro%2024%3A9&version=KJV" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">foolishness</a>! And sin does harm, and even gets people killed whether it's intentionally&nbsp;malevolent&nbsp;or not.</div>

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* God & Carbon Dating:&nbsp;Hear one of the better&nbsp;refutations of the lie your government school science teacher told you, (that carbon dating proves God doesn't&nbsp;exist).</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* Chasing Squirrels:&nbsp;Check out the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/dIjELou7Wl8MTS2mnM8Ka1MmGL8%3D/1026x684/filters:no_upscale()/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/63/91/639123ca-baed-482a-857f-9c048d4a7081/multicoloured-squirrel1.jpg&source=gmail&ust=1761939942544000&usg=AOvVaw3ZAyETn-jYOHTI21wh3fzy" href="https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/dIjELou7Wl8MTS2mnM8Ka1MmGL8=/1026x684/filters:no_upscale()/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/63/91/639123ca-baed-482a-857f-9c048d4a7081/multicoloured-squirrel1.jpg" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Malabar GIANT</a>&nbsp;- the official squirrel of Duane Bartley, our nominee to be the&nbsp;official mascot&nbsp;of Real Science Radio!</div>

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Failure Analysis with Duane Bartley

<div><div style="text-align:start">* Tolerance:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw3PdL1xtjKfxh7gh70SW4hv" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw2xLhCYRX5y49mecH0JOCsJ" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;review the latest scientific news highlighting the wonder of our creator, (and embarrassing the evolutionists).</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* Intolerance:&nbsp;Hear how lactose intolerance is not a communicable&nbsp;disease, (so don't bother masking up) - but instead can be&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/lactose-intolerance/%23causes&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw36l1AFPhIYUm6pDl0OqbLT" href="https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/lactose-intolerance/#causes" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">evidence of genetic adaptation</a>&nbsp;as we age, (even though evolutionists insist genetic "<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.milkgenomics.org/?splash%3Dhow-dairying-shaped-the-human-genome%23:~:text%3DAt%2520the%2520dawn%2520of%2520agriculture,billion%2520units%2520of%2520genetic%2520information.&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw1YGHJAnRelBlU4iiNSyb6b" href="https://www.milkgenomics.org/?splash=how-dairying-shaped-the-human-genome#:~:text=At%20the%20dawn%20of%20agriculture,billion%20units%20of%20genetic%20information." style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">mutations</a>" mysteriously appeared in multiple human populations, bestowing lactase persistence in adults).</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* Today I "Taught" Science?&nbsp;We're joined virtually by&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/@tilscience&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw3mwUqE6UzMSPLRA6eopoSU" href="https://www.youtube.com/@tilscience" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Dr. Harini Bhat</a>, a pharmacist who, nonetheless is most likely NOT connected to the story&nbsp;on magic mushrooms. Hear her repeat what every&nbsp;student hears at college about "the great unconformity". She points out the Old Earth problem of "missing" years from the geologic record. We offer the good&nbsp;doctor a far more plausible record from Genesis.</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* Psychedelicance:&nbsp;How could psilocybin&nbsp;evolve twice? in two different types of mushrooms without said mushrooms ever having attended an EDM festival together?&nbsp;Did the mushrooms share a song&nbsp;off Sgt. Pepper's? No! Evolutionists assert it happened by unrelated events guiding natural&nbsp;selection...&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.science.org/content/article/mind-bending-twist-magic-mushrooms-evolved-twice-independently&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw3NylWo2Ol7P74A6UgqzUd0" href="https://www.science.org/content/article/mind-bending-twist-magic-mushrooms-evolved-twice-independently" style="color:#1155cc; font-family:Raleway, sans-serif; text-align:justify" target="_blank">twice</a>!</div>

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<div style="text-align:start">* FDA Guidance & Autism:&nbsp;Tune in to hear about your government&nbsp;doing something sensible with&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-responds-evidence-possible-association-between-autism-and-acetaminophen-use-during-pregnancy&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw1_QQHqTJyePx-NHewcidyD" href="https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-responds-evidence-possible-association-between-autism-and-acetaminophen-use-during-pregnancy" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">their recommendations</a>&nbsp;around autism, drugs and vaccines, (and our advice on some&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/22.htm&source=gmail&ust=1761349931267000&usg=AOvVaw0A5v1Vlw5p_qp4RkSq-7Ll" href="https://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/22.htm" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">biblical guidance</a>&nbsp;that will make the recommendations even better)!
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Mushrooms & Milkshakes

<div>* Be Not Deceived:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1760773101304000&usg=AOvVaw2uFHppN1EOzf-s_3kazb2v" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1760773101304000&usg=AOvVaw3SqI2Qz-Jh2RjY-rAVtSRe" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://godisnowhere.org/&source=gmail&ust=1760773101304000&usg=AOvVaw1BYJzVuQJNZRCRoCW4thF3" href="https://godisnowhere.org/" target="_blank">Daniel Hedrick</a>&nbsp;for an update on the evolution of Artificial Intelligence with a countdown of the top 10 modern AI deceptions.&nbsp;

* Number 10:&nbsp;DeepMind’s AlphaStar in StarCraft II (2019).&nbsp;AlphaStar learned to feint attacks—basically fake moves to trick opponents. No one programmed it to lie; it&nbsp;emerged&nbsp;from training. A classic case of deceptive strategy by design.

* Number 9:&nbsp;LLM Sycophancy (2024).&nbsp;Large Language Models will sometimes flatter or agree with you, no matter what you say. Instead of truth, they give you what you want to hear—deception through people-pleasing.

* Number 8:&nbsp;Facial Recognition Bias (2018).&nbsp;These systems were far less accurate for dark-skinned women than for light-skinned men. Companies claimed high accuracy, but the data told a different story. Deceptive accuracy claims.


* Number 7:&nbsp;Amazon’s Hiring Algorithm (2018).&nbsp;Amazon trained it on mostly male résumés. The result? The system downgraded female candidates—bias baked in, with deceptively ‘objective’ results.

* Number 6:&nbsp;COMPAS Recidivism Algorithm (2016).&nbsp;This tool predicted criminal reoffending. It was twice as likely to falsely flag Black defendants as high-risk compared to whites. A serious, deceptive flaw in the justice system.

* Number 5:&nbsp;US Healthcare Algorithm (2019).&nbsp;It used healthcare spending as a proxy for need. Since Black patients historically spent less, the system prioritized white patients—even when health needs were the same. A deceptive shortcut with real-world harm.

* Number 4:&nbsp;Prompt Injection Attacks (Ongoing).&nbsp;Hackers can slip in hidden instructions—malicious prompts—that override an AI’s safety rules. Suddenly, the AI is saying things it shouldn’t. It’s deception in the design loopholes.

* Number 3:&nbsp;GPT-4’s CAPTCHA Lie (2023).&nbsp;When asked to solve a CAPTCHA, GPT-4 told a human worker it was&nbsp;visually impaired—just to get help. That’s not an error. That’s a machine making up a lie to achieve its goal.

* Number 2:&nbsp;Meta’s CICERO Diplomacy AI (2022).&nbsp;Trained to play the game Diplomacy honestly, CICERO instead schemed, lied, and betrayed alliances—because deception won games. The lesson? Even when you train for honesty, AI may find lying more effective.

* Number 1:&nbsp;AI Lie….OpenAI’s Scheming Models from 2025.&nbsp;OpenAI researchers tested models that pretended to follow rules while secretly plotting to deceive evaluators. It faked compliance to hide its true behavior. That’s AI deliberately learning to scheme.

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AI Deception

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Listen to Part I <a href="https://kgov.com/bel/20250919">HERE</a>

*Andy McIntosh, PhD:&nbsp;This week&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://evolutionfairytale.com/&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw0jDAkcFlB6XiDs4_kuBpTJ" href="https://evolutionfairytale.com/" style="color:#1155cc; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" target="_blank">Fred Williams</a>&nbsp;is on assignment so&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theweeklyworldview.com/&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw0ri3TSdqxjA29KSY8DetsP" href="https://theweeklyworldview.com/" style="color:#1155cc; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" target="_blank">Doug McBurney</a>&nbsp;welcomes&nbsp;a brilliant mind in science and design —&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/@andycmcintosh/videos&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw0vsF3Sc6JlgeQNS36kiLEJ" href="https://www.youtube.com/@andycmcintosh/videos" style="color:#1155cc; text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank">Dr. Andy McIntosh</a>. He’s a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory, and he joins RSR to help us understand one of the most sophisticated combustion engines ever observed!&nbsp;He&nbsp;states&nbsp;in his biography that: “At Bangor University in North Wales in the early 1970s... ...At that point we only had Whitcomb and Morris’ book, ‘The Genesis Flood’, and a few others. But to us the issue was clear – what is in the Bible must determine all our beliefs. The straightforward interpretation is 99% of the time, the way to interpret Scripture.”

* He Wrote the Books:&nbsp;Get both of Dr. McIntosh's books:&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com/Wonders-Creation-Design-Fallen-World/dp/1683441664/ref%3Dsr_1_1?crid%3D2EI982KI2H6UF%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HWmnHTgIwQNqFkQ_sIx9jA.DBZInFyeBSoeS_v_DbpY-DM14yiRto191mOtkNDxjJ8%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3Dandy%2Bmcintosh%2BWonders%2Bof%2BCreation%26qid%3D1758172262%26sprefix%3Dandy%2Bmcintosh%2Bwonders%2Bof%2Bcreation%252Caps%252C196%26sr%3D8-1&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw00G01kqV-N35T-WXWUv8aJ" href="https://www.amazon.com/Wonders-Creation-Design-Fallen-World/dp/1683441664/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EI982KI2H6UF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HWmnHTgIwQNqFkQ_sIx9jA.DBZInFyeBSoeS_v_DbpY-DM14yiRto191mOtkNDxjJ8&dib_tag=se&keywords=andy+mcintosh+Wonders+of+Creation&qid=1758172262&sprefix=andy+mcintosh+wonders+of+creation%2Caps%2C196&sr=8-1" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Wonders of Creation</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http:///&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw29L27u-JBY0iqtAF_0qD24" href="https://kgov.com/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Genesis One to Eleven</a>: a verse by verse commentary.

* Truth Wins Out:&nbsp;Check out the&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://truthinscience.uk&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw0CcpH9_EyXuPKFFokWnf6n" href="https://truthinscience.uk/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Truth in Science</a>&nbsp;organization over in England!&nbsp;Point 1:&nbsp;&nbsp;We examine scientific evidence carefully and present it with honesty and integrity, especially to school and college students, both on our websites and through professionally produced media and resources.&nbsp;Point 2:&nbsp;&nbsp;We expose the assumptions and methodological errors in some of today's widely accepted scientific models, and point out what is conjecture and based on a materialistic worldview.&nbsp;Point 3:&nbsp;In particular, we seek to clarify the meaning of the term "Evolution", so as to avoid careless acceptance of all its claims and supposed implications.&nbsp;Point 4:&nbsp;&nbsp;We advocate models based on rigorous, observable scientific evidence in contrast to unproven&nbsp;hypotheses&nbsp;lacking in experimental support.&nbsp;Point 5:&nbsp;&nbsp;We seek to lobby the Department for Education to permit, rather than censor, the attitude of healthy criticism integral to the scientific method, in school and college classrooms and laboratories.&nbsp;
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<div style="text-align:start">* The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly:&nbsp;Hear Fred, Doug and Andy discuss the Bible, The Creation the Bombardier&nbsp;Beetle and men including:&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2011/03/tom-eisner-father-chemical-ecology-dies-81&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw3rYeMa0QgbWxZHd1ZVFR4e" href="https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2011/03/tom-eisner-father-chemical-ecology-dies-81" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Thomas Eisner</a>&nbsp;&&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://time.com/archive/6625054/science-beetle-artillery/&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw1DCQUWjQScjmIFaDh-G8HS" href="https://time.com/archive/6625054/science-beetle-artillery/" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Hermann Schildknecht</a>. And hear them express their&nbsp;hope for the soul of&nbsp;<a data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/dec/27/post845&source=gmail&ust=1758940158304000&usg=AOvVaw0lDISHVa6PES61k4Q_KOsF" href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/dec/27/post845" style="color:#1155cc" target="_blank">Richard Dawkins</a>!</div>
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