Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness in American life through the lens of people who depend on public trust. After exploring what’s happened to referees and coaches, the third season of Against the Rules tackles what’s happened to our trust in experts and expertise. An expert has probably saved your life more than once. So why is it so hard to judge who the real experts are? And why, once we’ve found them, do we struggle to listen to what experts have to say? In this season, we meet oceanographers and baseball writers, nurses and former gang members — people who don’t have a lot in common but the mixed blessing of their expertise. iHeartMedia is the exclusive podcast partner of Pushkin Industries.
Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness in American life through the lens of people who depend on public trust. After exploring what’s happened to referees and coaches, the third season of Against the Rules tackles what’s happened to our trust in experts and expertise. An expert has probably saved your life more than once. So why is it so hard to judge who the real experts are? And why, once we’ve found them, do we struggle to listen to what experts have to say? In this season, we meet oceanographers and baseball writers, nurses and former gang members — people who don’t have a lot in common but the mixed blessing of their expertise. iHeartMedia is the exclusive podcast partner of Pushkin Industries.
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Episode 5: The Sanchez Problem
There’s one kind of expert whose role is enshrined in law: that of the expert witness, who’s called on to bolster one side of a case. But courtrooms are not great places for nuance. Overconfident expert testimony has been linked to countless wrongful convictions, especially in gang-related cases. Michael speaks with a new kind of expert witness: former gang members who struggle to counteract the testimony of police.If you’d like to keep up with the most recent news from this and other Pushkin podcasts be sure [to sign up for our email list] (https://pushkin.us20.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=ec28005461416f0b42178894f&id=1694c40f69) at Pushkin.fm.
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03 May 2022
40 MINS
40:02
03 May 2022
REBROADCAST: The Hand of Leonardo
Season Three of Against the Rules continues in this feed next Tuesday. In the meantime, Michael Lewis has an update on one of the most popular episodes from his first season, about a painting that may or may not have been done by Leonardo.
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26 Apr 2022
43 MINS
43:37
26 Apr 2022
Episode 4: Respect the Polygon
Experts know more now than ever before. And we’re more critical of them than ever before, too. But one kind of expert really gets us riled up: the type who deals in probabilities. We hear from meteorologists, political forecasters, and even nurses about why calculating the odds is so hard, and why we all suffer the deadly consequences as a result.
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19 Apr 2022
33 MINS
33:00
19 Apr 2022
Episode 3: Field of Ignorance
The right kind of expert, at the right time, can change everything. While working as a security guard at a pork-and-beans cannery in Kansas, Bill James started writing about baseball. But writing about it through the poetry of statistical analysis. It took a long time, but James's way of looking at the game changed more than just baseball.
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12 Apr 2022
34 MINS
34:27
12 Apr 2022
Episode 1: Six Levels Down
Athenahealth was just another healthcare provider facing the biggest problem US doctors face: not treating patients, but getting insurance companies to pay their bills. But then the company figured out how to fix the problem, by recognizing an overlooked expert toiling in the hospital basement.
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05 Apr 2022
42 MINS
42:17
05 Apr 2022
Episode 2: The Art of the Untold Story
Why can’t we see the experts right in front of us, even when they're saving our lives? Maybe it's because the specialized knowledge of many experts defies good storytelling. We hear from a nonprofit trying to elevate the esoteric work of government experts, and we hear from one of their nominees. His work has changed the survival prospects for many lost at sea, but even those survivors have never heard his name.
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05 Apr 2022
38 MINS
38:47
05 Apr 2022
Against the Rules Season 3: The Ballad of Expertise
In “Against the Rules,” journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness—in financial markets, newsrooms, basketball games, courts of law, and much more. In Season 3, Michael tackles America’s expert problem. Why is it so hard to figure out who the real experts are? And why, once we’ve found them, are they so rarely the people calling the shots?
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22 Mar 2022
02 MINS
02:55
22 Mar 2022
The Future of Drones from What’s Your Problem
As we're getting ready for the new season of Against the Rules on April 5, we're sharing an episode from Pushkin's newest show, What's Your Problem?
Former Planet Money host Jacob Goldstein talks to entrepreneurs about the future they’re trying to build—and the problems they have to solve to get there. It’s a show about trying to figure out how to do things no one on the planet knows how to do—from creating a drone delivery business, to building a car that can truly drive itself.
In the preview you’re about to hear, Jacob talks with the founder of a drone company called Zipline. The company makes hundreds of drone deliveries a day in Rwanda and Ghana. Now they're trying to solve a surprisingly hard problem: How do they make drone delivery work in the United States?
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17 Mar 2022
22 MINS
22:12
17 Mar 2022
Other People’s Money: George Saunders on the Value of Failure
After the surprise success of Liar’s Poker, publishers urged Michael Lewis to try his hand at fiction. It was a bad idea. But even award-winning fiction authors have struggled with failure. Michael speaks with Booker Prize-winning author George Saunders about the urge to imitate other writers, and what we all can learn from bad first drafts. We also hear why Saunders was identified early as a gifted student, while Michael Lewis was – emphatically – not.
You can order the new Liar’s Poker audiobook at Pushkin.fm/LiarsPoker.
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08 Mar 2022
28 MINS
28:25
08 Mar 2022
Other People’s Money: Ira Glass on Finding Your Voice
Michael Lewis did not rest long on his laurels after publishing Liar’s Poker. In the 1990s, he hit the presidential campaign trail, writing a series of magazine pieces. Some of his dispatches got adapted for audio by a then-new public radio show called “This American Life.” Michael speaks with the show’s creator, Ira Glass, about how they both found their voices as storytellers. Trigger warning: this episode contains vintage NPR sounds.
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01 Mar 2022
26 MINS
26:46
01 Mar 2022
Other People’s Money: Anne Clarke Wolff on the Wages of Sexism
Liar’s Poker is set on a Wall Street where women were the last hired and first fired — and that was probably the least of their worries. Is Wall Street today any better for women? Michael speaks with Anne Clarke Wolff, who was in the training class at Salomon Brothers a few years after him. She is starting an investment bank that will be majority owned and managed by women and minorities. The firm’s nickname? “Salomon Sisters.”
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22 Feb 2022
28 MINS
28:21
22 Feb 2022
Other People’s Money: Dash Riprock and the Human Piranha Revealed
Liar’s Poker describes many of the mentors Michael Lewis had at the investment bank Salomon Brothers. He chose to keep some of their identities secret, out of a well-founded fear that the book might cost them their cushy Wall Street jobs. Now for the first time, we get to hear their side of the story and learn their names.
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15 Feb 2022
29 MINS
29:18
15 Feb 2022
Other People’s Money: Jacob Goldstein and the Bonds of Wall Street
For the first time in more than 30 years, Michael Lewis has re-read Liar’s Poker. That experience brought up a lot of questions — especially, why is a book set in the pre-Internet Wall Street of the 1980s still relevant today? So Michael turned to Jacob Goldstein, finance reporter and host of the Pushkin show "What’s Your Problem?". They discuss how Liar’s Poker foreshadowed the ups and downs of the world we live in now.
You can listen to Jacob Goldstein’s new show “What’s Your Problem?” here: [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whats-your-problem/id1602541473] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whats-your-problem/id1602541473)
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08 Feb 2022
42 MINS
42:14
08 Feb 2022
Introducing Other People's Money: A Liar's Poker Companion
Michael Lewis published his first book, Liar's Poker, in 1989. It’s about his time as a bond salesman on Wall Street — and it was a runaway best seller. Pushkin Industries is re-releasing it for the first time as an unabridged audiobook, read by the author. And to celebrate, Lewis has made a special mini-series about the book. Over the course of five weeks, he'll revisit people he worked with, explore how he found his voice as a writer, and ask why Wall Street firms still assign the book to their interns today.
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26 Jan 2022
03 MINS
03:14
26 Jan 2022
Live Interview 5/19/21: Michael Lewis and Geraldine Brooks
Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Geraldine Brooks interviews Michael Lewis about his new book “The Premonition: A Pandemic Story.” They also discuss how Michael started his writing career and why growing up in New Orleans made him a better storyteller. This conversation was recorded as part of the Live Talks Los Angeles series and posted May 19, 2021.
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16 Jun 2021
47 MINS
47:21
16 Jun 2021
The Premonition
In this special bonus episode of Against the Rules, Michael Lewis reads a chapter from his new book about the pandemic, [The Premonition] (https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881554) —available now wherever books are sold. This episode includes the voice of Charity Dean, former Assistant Director of the California Department of Public Health and one of the medical visionaries featured in the book. And stay around for an exclusive author interview.
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04 May 2021
34 MINS
34:02
04 May 2021