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Each season, Secrets We Keep investigates a different Australian secret.   Shame Lies & Family: A mystery photo of Amelia Oberhardt’s mum exposes the practice of shotgun marriages, forced adoption, and quiet abortions carried out in Australia until the 1980s   Nest of Traitors: Joey Watson is pulled into the world of espionage, attempting to track down an Australian spy who turned to work for the enemy during the Cold War  Baghdad Nights: Richard Baker takes you inside Australia's biggest corruption scandal, finding out how Australia funded a dictator in the lead up to the Iraq War.  Pray Harder: Investigative journalist Richard Baker uncovers the unbelievable and compelling true story of Australia’s oldest and most hard line Pentecostal Church, the Geelong Revival Centre. 

Each season, Secrets We Keep investigates a different Australian secret.   Shame Lies & Family: A mystery photo of Amelia Oberhardt’s mum exposes the practice of shotgun marriages, forced adoption, and quiet abortions carried out in Australia until the 1980s   Nest of Traitors: Joey Watson is pulled into the world of espionage, attempting to track down an Australian spy who turned to work for the enemy during the Cold War  Baghdad Nights: Richard Baker takes you inside Australia's biggest corruption scandal, finding out how Australia funded a dictator in the lead up to the Iraq War.  Pray Harder: Investigative journalist Richard Baker uncovers the unbelievable and compelling true story of Australia’s oldest and most hard line Pentecostal Church, the Geelong Revival Centre. 

 

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#44

Pray Harder - Bonus - An update

Richard gives an update on Todd Hubers plea hearing and shares two more important stories from women who grew up in the Revival Church movement. Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14; [1800 Respect] (https://www.1800respect.org.au/) 1800 737 732 Looking for what to listen to next? Try [Crime In Focus: Killer Charm] (https://play.listnr.com/podcast/crime-in-focus/episode/01-the-accident-killer-charm) , the story of how a grandmother from suburban Queensland orchestrated the murder of her ex-partner. See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

19 Dec 2024

34 MINS

34:12

19 Dec 2024

#43

Pray Harder – Episode 9 - Love and Reckoning

Someone Richard wasn’t sure would ever talk to him is ready to speak. The church is rocked by the news of Pastor Noel’s death, and questions remain about whether new leadership will create change, or continue with the status quo. Richard returns to ex-members of the GRC, who have found support in each other and their families after the isolation of leaving the church. They’ve discovered the antidote to the GRC’s abuse of power and violence. It’s love. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14; [1800 Respect] (https://www.1800respect.org.au/) 1800 737 732 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

14 Dec 2024

46 MINS

46:31

14 Dec 2024

#42

Pray Harder – Episode 8 - Rebellion

Rumours abound of how Pastor Noel Hollins has used his finances to erase controversies in his church. Richard Baker’s investigation into how the Geelong Revival Centre maintains a tax-free charity status and where it uses its funds takes him to war-torn Sierra Leone. And former GRC Pastor Steve Mills finally goes head to head with Noel Hollins when he tries to protect members of the church. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

14 Dec 2024

39 MINS

39:44

14 Dec 2024

#41

Pray Harder – Episode 7 - Good Soldiers

In the Geelong Revival Centre, men are responsible for the entire family’s salvation. If the father does something wrong, his wife and children are at risk of going to hell. We hear from men who have defied the church’s expectations, despite the threat of physical punishment in this life,and eternal punishment in the next. But those who comply also pay a terrible price for their obedience. And Richard is one step closer to understanding Pastor Noel Hollins, when he sees a missed call on his phone. Richard calls the Pastor back, and this time he answers. Please note this episode contains adult themes including descriptions of violence and homophobia, as well as discussions regarding suicide, and harmful drug and alcohol use. Listener discretion is advised. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14  See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

14 Dec 2024

41 MINS

41:25

14 Dec 2024

#40

Pray Harder – Episode 6 - A Spiritual Problem

As a pastor in the church, Steve Mills watched on horrified as church members shunned or delayed medical care because of Pastor Noel Hollins relentless attacks on science and medicine. When someone is diagnosed with an illness, they are told it is only through prayer—not conventional medicine—that they will be saved. And when people die of treatable illnesses, those left grieving are told they should've “prayed harder”. From the pulpit Pastor Noel’s teachings empower men in the church to interfere in the private health affairs of others— with sometimes tragic results. Steve Mills realises he must challenge Pastor Noel directly. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

07 Dec 2024

40 MINS

40:13

07 Dec 2024

#39

Pray Harder – Episode 5 - A Proverbs 31 Woman

The Geelong Revival Centre wants the women in its church to be straight out of Proverbs 31 in the Bible: virtuous, god-fearing, and dedicating her life to her husband and family— and to expect very little in return. Unmarried women can’t approach men to date, and they can’t marry without the Pastor’s permission. Those who are seen to fail as virtuous women find themselves interrogated and watched by members of the church. Men are also punished for their transgressions. But women carry the stain. Meanwhile, former GRC Pastor Steve Mills suggests one way Richard can secure Noel’s attention. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

07 Dec 2024

41 MINS

41:26

07 Dec 2024

#38

Pray Harder – Episode 4 - You Were Never a Teenager Were You Pastor Hollins?

Inside the Geelong Revival Centre teenagers live a double life. They’re given zero freedoms, like small children, but they’re expected to live an adult life of religious devotion while still growing up. Pastor Noel Hollins is at war with the internet, pop music, and socialising outside of the church. He labels them as dangerous, but ex-church members say real dangers lie inside the GRC. Richard Baker uncovers the fallout from growing up inside the GRC, including stories of social ostracism, deep psychological trauma and distressing allegations by abuse victims, who say the church tried to silence them. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

07 Dec 2024

51 MINS

51:42

07 Dec 2024

#37

Pray Harder – Episode 3 - The Lost Tribe

How did Noel Hollins become the leader of the Geelong Revival Centre? A surprising rebellion is hidden in the history of his long and authoritarian rule. Richard Baker unearths Noel’s beginnings and explores some of the stranger beliefs the church preaches, including about Pyramids and the British Royal Family’s connection to Geelong.  Even some of the most loyal members of the GRC find themselves questioning the church— with repercussions. Richard realises that if he really wants to understand Pastor Noel, he needs to find a way to speak to him personally. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

30 Nov 2024

42 MINS

42:19

30 Nov 2024

#36

Pray Harder – Episode 2 - I’ll Give You Something to Cry About

In the beachside town of Geelong, most kids look forward to endless summer days, while children in the Geelong Revival Centre wait for the end of days. GRC kids are told they’re always being watched. By their parents, their Pastor, and their God. They expect this constant surveillance, and the threat of violence if they step out of line. Insider recordings of GRC leader Pastor Noel Hollins reveal how he promoted corporal punishment for children, and we learn how church parents were pressured to enforce these rules on their own kids. Outspoken defectors of the GRC confide in journalist Richard Baker, he hears how from Pastor Noel’s pulpit, children learn to receive the Holy Spirit to keep the devil at bay. And what happens in the church, stays in the church. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC Do you know more? Get in touch [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14 See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

30 Nov 2024

34 MINS

34:51

30 Nov 2024

#35

Pray Harder – Episode 1 – Noel's War

A story too big to ignore is drawing journalist Richard Baker back to his home town of Geelong.  The chosen people of a strict Pentecostal church claim to have seen miracles happen, and expect to be among the few saved when Armageddon comes. But for some, the Geelong Revival Centre has brought the opposite of salvation.  Ex-members are speaking out about the pain, control, and heartbreak they’ve endured under the rule of Pastor Noel Hollins, the leader of the church for the past 50 years. Richard meets some of these brave ex-members, many who are speaking out for the first time, as they share what it’s like to grow up in the GRC.  The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC  Do you know more? Get in touch  [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au)   [Lifeline] (https://www.lifeline.org.au/) 13 11 14  See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

30 Nov 2024

37 MINS

37:10

30 Nov 2024

#34

Introducing Pray Harder

The end of the world is coming for members of a Geelong Church. It’s been looming for over 50 years. And only the chosen few will be saved.  Follow investigative journalist Richard Baker as he returns to his home town to investigate one of Australia’s most hardline Pentecostal churches and the man who led it.  This series goes deep inside the secretive group and the disturbing doctrine of Pastor Noel Hollins.   Richard Baker has received hundreds of hours of audio recordings that reveal the inner teachings of the doomsday group. He speaks to ex-members who have managed to escape, many who are sharing their stories for the first time.  They speak of a brutal place where men must be obeyed, children must be punished and the solution to every problem is to pray harder.  This special LiSTNR nine part investigation uncovers how an Australian church, with charity status, has impacted the lives of vulnerable people for generations - without repercussions.  Until now.    Listen to the full series now on LiSTNR https://play.listnr.com/podcast/secrets-we-keep Episode 1 available everywhere December 1. The interviews in this series were recorded during Pastor Noel Hollins leadership of the Geelong Revival Centre. During production, Pastor Noel died. The experiences and allegations raised do not relate to the current leadership of the GRC See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

21 Nov 2024

03 MINS

03:49

21 Nov 2024

#33

Baghdad Nights - Bonus - The Tigris matter

In December 2005, Richard Baker published a story about an obscure oil company called Tigris Petroleum, and its ties to Iraq. A few weeks later, Tigris would be linked to the AWB at the Cole inquiry. In this bonus episode, Richard revisits the story, and finally gets some key documents about Tigris released.  Featured: ---Michael Long ---Alexander Downer ---Ross Fusca Contact: [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au)   See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

30 Sep 2024

20 MINS

20:30

30 Sep 2024

#32

Baghdad Nights – Episode 9 – G’day Mr Howard

Richard Baker interviews former Prime Minister John Howard, to find out why Australia went into the Iraq War, and ask how much his government knew about the AWB’s dealings.   Featured: ---John Howard ---Caroline Overington  ---Alexander Downer ---Trevor Flugge Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

23 Sep 2024

29 MINS

29:55

23 Sep 2024

#31

Baghdad Nights – Episode 8 – Shut it down and shred

The Cole inquiry recommends the AWB be investigated, and the Australian Federal Police set up a taskforce. Richard Baker speaks to former AFP officer Ross Fusca and finds out the taskforce mysteriously disappeared. The corporate regulator, ASIC, also attempts to hold the wheat men to account.  Featured: ---Darryl Hockey ---Ross Fusca ---Michael Long ---Trevor Flugge ---Rod McLeod (voicing Mark Emons)  ---Dan Mullins (voicing lawyer) Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

16 Sep 2024

31 MINS

31:38

16 Sep 2024

#30

Baghdad Nights - Episode 7 - Absolute nong

It’s Trevor Flugge and Michael Long’s turn in the witness box, though it couldn’t have come at a worse time. The media is fixated on photos of the pair in Baghdad holding guns, looking like cavalier cowboys. But they won’t be the only powerful men called to give evidence.   Featured: ---Trevor Flugge ---Michael Long ---Nonee Walsh ---Kelvin Thomson ---Alexander Downer ---Darryl Hockey Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

09 Sep 2024

29 MINS

29:55

09 Sep 2024

#29

Baghdad Nights - Episode 6 - Every man for himself

The Australian government announces an inquiry into the AWB, with the lawyers hoping to prove the AWB knew it was breaching sanctions. A whistleblower fronts the inquiry to give evidence... in secret.  Featured: ---Trevor Flugge ---Darryl Hockey ---Michael Long ---Anwar Al-Rawi ---Rod McLeod (voicing Mark Emons)  ---Dan Mullins (voicing lawyer) Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

02 Sep 2024

24 MINS

24:51

02 Sep 2024

#28

Baghdad Nights - Episode 5 - Life, death and deals

Saddam Hussein has been found, weapons of mass destruction have not. The reason for the Iraq invasion crumbles, and the world’s attention is turned to corruption in the United Nations Oil For Food Program. The AWB’s dealings in Iraq are about to come under scrutiny from an international investigation.  Featured: ---Darryl Hockey ---Alexander Downer ---Caroline Overington  ---Mark Pieth  Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

26 Aug 2024

30 MINS

30:35

26 Aug 2024

#27

Baghdad Nights – Episode 4 – Wars within wars

The US invades Iraq, and good old Australia has joined. The Australian wheat men are on the ground a month later, and the secret mission begins – protect Australia’s lucrative wheat market.  Featured: ---Robin Raphel  ---Trevor Flugge ---Michael Long ---Lieutenant Colonel Paul Wright ---Alexander Downer ---Alan Tracy Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

19 Aug 2024

26 MINS

26:42

19 Aug 2024

#26

Baghdad Nights - Episode 3 - A hidden agenda

The drums of war are beating, and the Australian Wheat Board’s multimillion-dollar trade with Iraq is at risk. Lucky for them, powerful sources promise to keep the AWB informed of any signs of war, while the public hears something different.   Featured: ---Trevor Flugge ---Darryl Hockey ---Alexander Downer ---Anwar Al-Rawi ---Michael Long Contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

12 Aug 2024

33 MINS

33:06

12 Aug 2024

#25

Baghdad Nights - Episode 2 - Bread and bullion

How did the Australian Wheat Board (AWB) fund Saddam Hussein’s regime? Richard Baker speaks with Michael Long and Trevor Flugge from the Australian Wheat Board (AWB) to find out how Australia built a strong trade relationship with Iraq. Featured: ---Anwar Al-Rawi ---Maitham Al-alyawy ---Michael Long ---Trevor Flugge Get in contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

05 Aug 2024

28 MINS

28:11

05 Aug 2024

#24

Baghdad Nights - Episode 1 - The bloke with the gun

In the lead up to the Iraq War, the Australian Wheat Board (AWB), gave $300 million in illicit funds to Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Journalist Richard Baker meets Trevor Flugge, the AWB’s chairman who went on to be the poster boy for the corruption scandal, thanks to a leaked photo.   Featured: ---Trevor Flugge Get in contact: secretswekeep@sca.com.au See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

05 Aug 2024

21 MINS

21:28

05 Aug 2024

#23

Introducing Baghdad Nights

It’s Australia’s biggest corruption scandal: $300 million funnelled to a notorious dictator via dodgy wheat contracts in the lead up to the Iraq War.    Award-winning journalist Richard Baker takes you inside the scandal, with the help of three wheat salesmen caught in the middle of extraordinary world events. Were they cowboys who pocketed millions for their company? Scapegoats for a government stuff up? Or something in between...   Secrets We Keep: Baghdad Nights launches August 6.   See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

25 Jul 2024

03 MINS

03:46

25 Jul 2024

#22

Nest of Traitors - Episode 7 - Honey badger

Joey travels to Melbourne to try and meet a living mole suspect to finally get some answers. If you have any feedback or information about this story you can email secretswekeep@sca.com.au or you could send Joey a letter GPO Box 22, Sydney NSW 2000. See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

06 Mar 2024

35 MINS

35:02

06 Mar 2024

#21

Nest of Traitors - Episode 6 - The suspects

A KGB defector directs Joey towards a former British politician. Joey investigates and finds the names of four potential moles who operated inside ASIO during the Cold War. He begins searching for the four suspects.  If you have any feedback or information about this story you can email  [secretswekeep@sca.com.au] (mailto:secretswekeep@sca.com.au) or you could send Joey a letter GPO Box 22, Sydney NSW 2000. See [omnystudio.com/listener] (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. ... Read more

28 Feb 2024

27 MINS

27:34

28 Feb 2024