Nobody Should Believe Me podcast

Nobody Should Believe Me

Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake. In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime. "A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times ​ ​ (LM032423)

Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake. In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime. "A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times ​ ​ (LM032423)

 

#111

S05 Ep05: The Breaking Point

In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve been supporting her and her daughters.  Concerns for abuse grow as Sophie begins to push a new narrative that C has central precocious puberty (CPP), a condition that causes the body to go through puberty prematurely, After making an initial DCF report in 2019 and tracking Sophie’s demands for increasingly invasive procedures: Seattle Children’s Child Abuse Team files an official report to the Department of Children, Youth, and Families. Her daughters are subsequently placed in protective custody and Sophie is charged with assault of a child in the second degree.  We hear from the Seattle reporter who broke the story, Olivia LaVoice and dig into the extensive documentation from the  investigation with Detective Michael Lee, a major crimes detective in Texas and co-founder of the National Crimes Against Children Investigators Association.. Andrea also talks with Dr. Mary Zupanc, a pediatric neurologist and epilepsy specialist with over 30 years of clinical and research experience with AHC. She gives listeners a better understanding of AHC by describing the history of the disorder, the various symptoms, common environmental triggers, and how clinical diagnoses of AHC are made. *** Links and Resources: More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: [https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/] (https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/) Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/] (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/) Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click [HERE] (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104005990536076480378&rtpof=true&sd=true) for more information.  Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029) Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/ Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: [https://brittaniard.com/podcast] (https://brittaniard.com/podcast) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

21 hrs Ago

51 MINS

51:49

21 hrs Ago


#110

S05 Ep04: When the Cameras are On

From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments. But were any of these things actually needed?  We hear audio from the police interviews of Sophie’s next door neighbors and a school aide who note that they rarely saw C in her wheelchair.  We also take a closer look at C’s diagnoses with friend-of -the-show (our not-so-secret Florida doctor) Dr. Bex, joins us briefly to explain the process that pediatricians go through to provide a clinical diagnosis to their patients.  We take a closer look at the narrative Sophie weaves on Instagram, documenting her daughter C’s medical journey on both her personal account and where she posts relentlessly about C’s health and includes pictures of her G-Tube and Cecostomy Tube. We listen to reports from both Sophie’s mother and father stating that C had no trouble eating by mouth, and we’re joined by Dr. Jill Glick, a Child Abuse Pediatrician from the University of Chicago, who explains why a child who can eat normally but still has a G-Tube, as requested by a parent, is incredibly troubling. *** Links and Resources: More about Dr. Jill Glick: [https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick] (https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick) Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029) Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/ Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: [https://brittaniard.com/podcast] (https://brittaniard.com/podcast) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

23 Jan 2025

45 MINS

45:07

23 Jan 2025


#109

Introducing: PRETEND

From cult leaders to con artists and undercover FBI agents, PRETEND exposes those pretending to be someone they're not. *** LaDonna Humphrey, a respected true crime author and podcaster, has built a strong reputation through her detailed investigations. However, beneath her acclaimed public image lies a troubling undercurrent of allegations and dark secrets. As former associates, friends, and family come forward with disturbing claims. These people have never spoken out... until now. The question arises: Who's really afraid of LaDonna Humphrey? *** Listen to PRETEND on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo Listen to PRETEND on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

20 Jan 2025

44 MINS

44:11

20 Jan 2025


#108

S05 Ep03: Constant Crisis

Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days after C’s third birthday, she is diagnosed with Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood (AHC), a rare, one-in-a-million neurological disorder.  Simultaneously, Sophie enrolls her older daughter, M, in an elite gymnastics program. We speak to some of the moms who knew Sophie from the gym to get a better picture of Sophie and the two girls. They reveal a picture of a woman who, despite seeming to move from one crisis to the next, is somehow caring for a medically fragile child, nurturing an aspiring Olympian and financing all of this without a job or a partner.  *** Links and Resources: Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click [HERE] (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104005990536076480378&rtpof=true&sd=true) for more information.  Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029) Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/ Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: [https://brittaniard.com/podcast] (https://brittaniard.com/podcast) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

16 Jan 2025

50 MINS

50:26

16 Jan 2025


#107

S05 Ep02: Spiritual Warfare

In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from Zambia was God’s path for her life to allegedly performing an exorcism, Sophie’s faith is an integral part of this case. We hear from Dr. Lauren Turek, an Associate Professor of History at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX and author of [To Bring the Good News to All Nations: ] (https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501748912/to-bring-the-good-news-to-all-nations/) Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and U.S. Foreign Relations, gives us a context about Evangelical Christianity in the US and abroad and helps us understand Sophie’s religious upbringing and worldview. Andrea is then joined by some of the Nobody Should Believe Me team: Senior Producer Myrriah Gossett and Lead Researcher/Producer Erin Ajayi to attempt to fill in the many blanks left by Sophie’s memoir about her time in Zambia. The three of them lay out a timeline leading up to Sophie’s adoptions of M and C, while at the same time examining the series of omissions and half-truths riddling Sophie’s story. *** Links and Resources: Learn more about Dr. Lauren Turek: [https://laurenturek.com/] (https://laurenturek.com/) Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029) Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/ Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

09 Jan 2025

55 MINS

55:50

09 Jan 2025


#106

S05 Ep01: Sophie Saves Zambia

We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, Crowns of Beauty, where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions of M and C; examining the way she portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. We’re also joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, to help listeners understand the complexities of transracial adoptions.  *** Links and Resources: Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click [HERE] (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104005990536076480378&rtpof=true&sd=true) for more information.  More information on Chad’s background with transracial adoption: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view] (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view?usp=sharing) Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029] (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029) Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/ Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: [https://brittaniard.com/podcast] (https://brittaniard.com/podcast) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

02 Jan 2025

45 MINS

45:02

02 Jan 2025


#105

Season 5 Trailer

Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, C, reporting a variety of alarming symptoms: from chronic vomiting, to seizures, to days-long episodes of full-body paralysis.  Eventually, C is diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. Sophie weaves a tale of a child who could “leave us anytime” and uses the child’s illness to fundraise tens of thousands of dollars for special equipment and medical expenses, takes C on a Make-A-Wish trip, posts constantly about her family’s plight on her prolific social media accounts, and even writes a memoir about the story of her journey to adopt her. But is Sophie really the heroic mother of a sick child, or is she the ultimate unreliable narrator? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

20 Dec 2024

03 MINS

03:18

20 Dec 2024


#104

Case Files 10: The Psychology of Perpetrators with Dr. Cathy Ayoub

In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, APSAC member, nurse practitioner, and counseling and consulting psychologist. Cathy tells listeners about her background and first encounter with Munchausen by Proxy. She and Andrea chat about the different groupings of perpetrators and the characteristics/background that may signal that an abuser can be rehabilitated. Cathy dives into family dynamics, and her current study on the long-term effects of this abuse. *** Links and Resources: More about Dr. Cathy Ayoub: [https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub] (https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub) Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

26 Dec 2024

1 HR 30 MINS

1:30:26

26 Dec 2024


#103

Case Files 09: Jesika Jones Part 4 with Detective Mike Weber

In the final part of our miniseries covering the Jesika Jones case, Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber, who shares the series of events from Jesika’s first bond violation through to her 60 year sentencing, from his perspective as law enforcement. He shares the differences in how seriously child abuse cases are taken when there’s a male vs female perpetrator, and the politics behind trying Medical Child Abuse cases in court. Andrea and Mike wrap up their conversation by talking about the systemic changes that need to happen, not only to protect kids from this abuse, but also to help families after the damage has been done. *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

19 Dec 2024

55 MINS

55:48

19 Dec 2024


#102

Case Files 08: Jesika Jones Part 3 with Derek Jones

Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tuned for the final episode next week, where Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber. *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

12 Dec 2024

53 MINS

53:00

12 Dec 2024


#101

Introducing: THREE

After midnight on July 6th, 2012, three teenage girls walked into the thick Appalachian woods somewhere along the Mason-Dixon line. Hours later, under the glow of a nearly full moon, only two walked out. The very last time Dave and Mary Neese saw their only child Skylar was in a grainy black-and-white video. In it, she's sneaking out of her ground-floor bedroom in the middle of the night, her purse over her shoulder, her brown hair swinging as she hurries across the small parking lot to a waiting car. What happened to Skylar Neese has become gothic American lore: the odd girl out in a vicious teenage triangle. But in the ten years since that fateful night beneath the West Virginia stars, a fuller portrait of what happened has emerged. From award-winning journalists Justine Harman and Holly Millea comes a gripping 10-part series featuring Skylar's family, closest friends, and law enforcement who lived the case—and are still living it. *** Listen to THREE on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5tFRuwruLTrGfQFx51bl5J?si=35d6689b4b3d4e6b Listen to THREE on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/three/id1728272114 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

06 Dec 2024

44 MINS

44:06

06 Dec 2024