Nobody Should Believe Me podcast

Nobody Should Believe Me

Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake. In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime. "A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times ​ ​ (LM032423)

Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake. In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime. "A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times ​ ​ (LM032423)

 

#101

Revisiting Season 3: Shelter

While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case.  Next week, we have a brand new miniseries coming to your ears, so stay tuned. *** As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.   The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?   We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.   The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation.  *** Links/Resources:  Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Kowalski case: [https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199] (https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

21 Nov 2024

47 MINS

47:54

21 Nov 2024


#100

Exploring the Disturbing World of Mitoaction.org

In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case. Like most illnesses seen in Munchausen by Proxy cases, while there are tests that doctors run, mitochondrial disorders present challenges in distinguishing genuine cases because of the array of symptoms they present. They discuss how support groups and websites–while so important for families dealing with complex chronic illnesses–can serve as playbooks for offenders.  Andrea and Dr. Bex take listeners through the website for Mitoaction.org and its advice that appears to be directed squarely at perpetrators of medical child abuse. * * *  Visit [mitoaction.org] (http://mitoaction.org)                                                                       Preorder Andrea's new book [ ] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) .  Click [ ] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on [ ] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [ ] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [ ] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) .  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [ ] (https://www.munchausensupport.com/) [MunchausenSupport.com] (https://www.munchausensupport.com/) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [ ] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) .  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

14 Nov 2024

1 HR 42 MINS

1:42:23

14 Nov 2024


#99

Introducing A Little Bit Culty

LIFE AFTER NARCS: DR. RAMANI DURVASULA ON NAVIGATING NARCISSISM Are malignant narcissists born or made? How do you recover after narcissistic abuse? In this episode, licensed clinical psychologist  [Dr. Ramani Durvasula] (https://doctor-ramani.com/)  tackles our burning narc-y questions. She’s the author of two books on the subject: “Should I Stay or Should I Go: Surviving A Relationship with a Narcissist” and “Don’t You Know Who I Am?: How to Stay Sane in an Era of Narcissism, Entitlement, and Incivility.” Her work has been featured at SXSW, TEDx, the Red Table Talk, the Today Show, and Investigation Discovery. You can also find her on her wildly popular  [YouTube ] (https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorRamanDurvasula) channel where she dispenses wisdom on protecting yourself from hoovering, gaslighting and other narc trademarks. *** Join  [A Little Bit Culty on Patreon] (https://www.patreon.com/alittlebitculty) Get poppin’ fresh  [ALBC Swag] (https://my-store-c9bd2a.creator-spring.com/) Support the pod and  [smash this link] (https://donorbox.org/support-a-little-bit-culty) Cult awareness and recovery  [resources] (https://alittlebitculty.com/resources) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

12 Nov 2024

1 HR 17 MINS

1:17:07

12 Nov 2024


#98

On Combatting Hopelessness

In the wake of this week's election results, Andrea shares a minisode with her thoughts on committing yourself to a fight that feels impossible.  Want to suggest a non-profit for us to support? Drop us a line  [hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com] (mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com)   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

08 Nov 2024

05 MINS

05:47

08 Nov 2024


#97

Justina Pelletier Part 4

Dr. Bex joins Andrea for the final installment of our Justina Pelletier miniseries. They pick up by giving an overview of the court case, and the eerie similarities to the Kowalski case. They chat about the experts who were brought in by both the Pelletiers and Boston Children’s, and the importance of looking into the background of expert witnesses. Dr. Bex and Andrea break down the connection between somatoform disorder and prolonged Medical Child Abuse, and how it may affect the recovery of the victim once they are separated from their abuser.  Bex and Andrea also catch listeners up on where Justina Pelletier is now and what the trajectory of her life and health has looked like since being returned to her parents.  *** Links/Resources:  The Battle for Justina Pelletier: [https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112] (https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112) Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: [https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935] (https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

07 Nov 2024

59 MINS

59:50

07 Nov 2024


#96

Justina Pelletier Part 3 with Beau Berman

In part 3 of our Justina Pelletier mini-series, Andrea and Beau pick up where part 2 left off, with the topic of mitoaction.org. They then get into the side story of Martin Gottesfeld, a hacker who did not know the family, but took on the mantle of saving Justina by hacking into the Boston Childrens’ system to pressure them into releasing her. Beau talks about the last time he was contacted by the Pelletiers, Lou Pelletier’s reaction to the media attention, and how Justina is doing currently. *** Links/Resources:  [https://www.mitoaction.org/] (https://www.mitoaction.org/) The Battle for Justina Pelletier: [https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112] (https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112) Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: [https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935] (https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

31 Oct 2024

49 MINS

49:18

31 Oct 2024


#95

Justina Pelletier Part 2 with Beau Berman

On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it.  *** Links/Resources:  The Battle for Justina Pelletier: [https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112] (https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112) Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: [https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html] (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html) Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: [https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935] (https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

24 Oct 2024

49 MINS

49:33

24 Oct 2024


#94

Justina Pelletier Part 1

Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast. Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals.  *** Links/Resources:  The Battle for Justina Pelletier: [https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112] (https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112) Read about Justina Pelletier in The Boston Globe: [https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html] (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html) Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: [https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935] (https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

17 Oct 2024

54 MINS

54:44

17 Oct 2024


#93

Kowalski, Ketamine, and Matthew Perry

Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! Andrea, either solo or joined by guests, will be taking listeners through additional Munchausen by Proxy cases, updates on previously covered cases, and the broader societal impact of this form of child abuse. In this conversation, Andrea and Dr. Bex (our secret Florida doctor friend from season 3) delve into the growing popularity of ketamine usage and the public perception of the role that it played in the Take Care of Maya case compared to the death of Friends actor Matthew Perry. After giving a quick overview of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins trial and an update on the appeal, they discuss how ketamine was used in Maya Kowalski’s treatment vs the current medical standard. Andrea and Dr. Bex then go on to recap and draw parallels to what happened to Matthew Perry. * * * Links/Resources:  Join as a free Patreon member to listen to our interview with Ethen Shapiro about the appeal in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s: [https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045] (https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

10 Oct 2024

1 HR 25 MINS

1:25:02

10 Oct 2024


#92

Answering Your Season 4 Questions with Producer Myrriah

Welcome to our Season 4 Mailbag Episode! We’re so excited to officially introduce our fabulous producer Myrriah Gossett, who works tirelessly behind the scenes to keep the many moving parts of Nobody Should Believe Me on track.  Andrea and Myrriah reflect on their experiences reporting for season 4, ethically navigating survivor stories, and the considerations involved in sharing the intimate details of someone’s real life. They also address questions about the show’s coverage of dissociative identity disorder and several other common themes from this season.  * * * Links/Resources:  Check out Myrriah’s other work! [https://www.myrriahgossett.com/] (https://www.myrriahgossett.com/) Mental Illness Happy Hour episode on DID: [https://mentalpod.com/archives/7042] (https://mentalpod.com/archives/7042) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

03 Oct 2024

1 HR 04 MINS

1:04:09

03 Oct 2024


#91

BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Carly Ostler

On this week’s unabridged interview from season 4, Andrea chats with trauma therapist Carly Ostler. The two of them dive into what complex trauma is, the difference between PTSD and complex PTSD, and the co-dependent nature of abusive families. Carly explains why abuse from parental figures affects survivors so deeply, as well as the complexity of grieving an abuser.  * * * Links/Resources:  Learn more about Carly: [https://www.carlyostler.com/] (https://www.carlyostler.com/) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

26 Sep 2024

55 MINS

55:15

26 Sep 2024


#90

BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Jade Miller

This week, we are bringing you our full interview with Jade Miller, founder of Peer Support for Multiples and a multiple herself. This incredibly informative and demystifying conversation, goes into Jade’s journey to becoming a peer support mentor and the limitations of therapy for those with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Andrea and Jade also dive into practical ways to support those with DID, the spectrum of dissociation to multiples, and the realities of being a Multiple. * * * Links/Resources:  Check out Jade’s peer support platform and books: [https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/] (https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

19 Sep 2024

47 MINS

47:45

19 Sep 2024


#89

BONUS: Unabridged Interview with Bea Yorker

Law professor, nurse, and president of Munchausen Support, Bea Yorker, shares what first got her interested in working with Munchausen by proxy cases, and remembers the first time she was exposed to medical child abuse. She recounts how she first met Jo in the Munchausen by proxy Committee of the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children. Bea and Andrea talk through the positive psychological effects of peer support groups for those coping with trauma and how to create a safe space for survivors to help each other.   *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/)  to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod)  where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (https://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe)  or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts)  where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (https://munchausensupport.com/) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

05 Sep 2024

1 HR 10 MINS

1:10:16

05 Sep 2024


#88

No One is Coming to Save Us

In our season four finale, we talk about what justice looks like for survivors of abuse and how to recover from the loss of an abusive parent. We examine the importance of confronting the reality of what happened as a crucial first step in a survivor’s healing and ask what feels like an impossible question–when the systems fail, as they so often do–what do you do about someone like Jo’s mom Donna?  *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more and follow therapist [Carly Oster] (https://www.carlyostler.com/) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

22 Aug 2024

42 MINS

42:58

22 Aug 2024


#87

Cleaning Up The Mess

In the aftermath of Donna’s death, Jo returns home to Hutchinson to plan their mother’s funeral and clean up her mess one final time. As Jo and their sister Crystal sort through the detritus of the filthy, overstuffed apartment where Donna spent her final days, they come across strange artifacts, including letter from Jo’s childhood self.  We also talk to therapist and Complex PTSD specialist, Carly Ostler about the complexities of grieving for an abusive parent and why they can have an even stronger hold on their children than loving parents. *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more and follow therapist [Carly Oster] (https://www.carlyostler.com/) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

15 Aug 2024

45 MINS

45:03

15 Aug 2024


#86

The Body is a Battlefield

Jo starts to make big strides within their personal life. From building community and finding friends, to finally being able to take care of themselves in a way that feels safe. They’ve even rediscovered their love for cheerleading. But just as they’re starting to forge a new relationship with their body, an injury causes a major setback. We talk to two of Jo’s closest people–their therapist Angie and their roommate Spencer–about watching Jo struggle through this difficult time, and gain insights into how survivors can be cared for during a health crisis. *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

01 Aug 2024

42 MINS

42:55

01 Aug 2024


#85

“I love you to death”

When Jo begins sharing their experiences online, they get a request from the producers of nationally broadcast television show “The Doctors” to tell their story to an audience of millions. During their dramatic confrontation on air, Donna continues to gaslight Jo and deny the abuse; Jo nonetheless finds healing and release in opening up about the truth. But even as Jo begins to break away, Donna finds ways to pull them back in and distort their reality.  *** Links/Resources:  Watch Jo’s episode of [The Doctors] (https://www.facebook.com/TheDoctors/videos/meet-woman-who-claims-she-was-a-victim-of-munchausen-by-proxy/2514501705499126/) Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

25 Jul 2024

45 MINS

45:07

25 Jul 2024


#84

Revelations

Today we look back at Jo’s revelation in their twenties that they’d been a victim of Munchausen by proxy abuse: a moment that turned their world upside down. As Jo forges a path forward – reviewing their medical records and even confronting their childhood pediatrician – they discover how complex healing from this abuse truly is. Jo also opens up about their experiences with Dissociative Identity Disorder. We speak to Jo’s therapist, Angie, about their complicated system of coping mechanisms. We also bring in Jackie Rodriguez LMSW, QMHP-CS and peer support specialist Jade Miller to help us understand the deeply misunderstood and stigmatized condition of DID.  *** Links/Resources:  Jade Miler - [https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/] (https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/) Jackie Rodriguez, LMSW, QMHP-CS - [ Instagram] (https://www.instagram.com/transtherapyjackie?igsh=MThnZXo5MmYzbW5qaw==)   Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

18 Jul 2024

58 MINS

58:29

18 Jul 2024


#83

Not Without My Daughter

As we dig deeper into Jo’s history, we tackle one of the many confusing aspects of their childhood: their paternity. We navigate the many twists and turns around the father figures in Jo’s life. From abusive men in the home to a secret father they never knew about, we unravel another complex layer of Donna’s deceptions. We hear more from Jo’s sister Crystal and talk to Jo’s biological father, Reza, about what it was like to be on the other side of the big lie.   *A note that this episode does include mention of sexual assault and may be difficult for some listeners. Please take care.  *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . [National Sexual Violence Resource Center ] (https://www.nsvrc.org/survivors) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

04 Jul 2024

41 MINS

41:41

04 Jul 2024


#82

A Ride-along with The Dating Detectives

In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderson as they delve into a case of medical mystery and romantic deception. Mila joins us to tell her harrowing story about how her girlfriend’s tragic battle with brain cancer turned out to be something far more sinister. *** Check out  [The Dating Detectives] (https://www.thedatingdetectivespodcast.com/) ! Follow The Dating Detectives on  [instagram] (https://www.instagram.com/datingdetectivespodcast/) . Follow [Hanna] (https://www.instagram.com/hannaandergram/) and [Mackenzie] (https://www.instagram.com/freedom_barbie/) on instagram. Preorder Andrea's new book  [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click  [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/)  to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on  [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod)  where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:  [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books  [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to  [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe)  or subscribe on  [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts)  where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit  [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com/) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded  [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

01 Jul 2024

1 HR 06 MINS

1:06:19

01 Jul 2024


#81

“I Brought You Into This World I Can Take You Out”

While visiting their hometown, Jo reconnects with their older sister, Crystal, to have the deeply honest and heart-wrenching conversation their mother never wanted them to have: one where they share the hard truths about the abuse they both suffered at her hand. Crystal and Jo reach a new level of understanding of their shared experiences and their love for each other. We also speak to Munchausen by proxy expert Bea Yorker to talk about the process of discovery and recovery for survivors.  *** Links/Resources:  Preorder Andrea's new book [The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy] (https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/) Click [here] (https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/) to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on [YouTube] (https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod) where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: [@andreadunlop] (https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/) Buy Andrea's books [here] (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI) . To support the show, go to [Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe] (http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe) or subscribe on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit [MunchausenSupport.com] (http://munchausensupport.com) The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded [here] (https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

27 Jun 2024

59 MINS

59:41

27 Jun 2024