The Chad & Cheese Podcast podcast

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

 

#1545

LinkedIn's Trust Tree

This week, the gang kicks things off with LinkedIn’s shiny new 100-million-strong verifica... more

12 Dec 2025

47 MINS

47:40

12 Dec 2025


#1544

Shredded: Pine, Fronted, Findem, Getro, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

11 Dec 2025

04 MINS

04:41

11 Dec 2025


#1543

You're Doing AI Wrong with Charlene Li

Charlene Li joins Chad and Cheese to tackle the messy reality of AI in the workplace, stre... more

09 Dec 2025

38 MINS

38:59

09 Dec 2025


#1542

VONQ Goes Hollywood & Indeed Builds a Death Star

Strap in, kids — this week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the gang returns from skiing, glo... more

05 Dec 2025

51 MINS

51:22

05 Dec 2025


#1541

Shredded: Tutor Intelligence, Jeeva AI, Helio AI , Pack, GoTu, Cyberr, LizzyAI, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

04 Dec 2025

06 MINS

06:32

04 Dec 2025


#1540

ICE, ICE Baby with Desiree Throckmorton

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome ... more

02 Dec 2025

28 MINS

28:27

02 Dec 2025


#1539

TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and....

In this turkey-fueled episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys stuff themselves like... more

28 Nov 2025

42 MINS

42:46

28 Nov 2025


#1538

From Hi to Hired w/ Julia Levy

On the Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcomed Julia Levy, a s... more

25 Nov 2025

31 MINS

31:54

25 Nov 2025


#1537

Zoom & Workday Get Busy

Zoom just bought AI interview intelligence darling BrightHire. Chad and Joel discuss why t... more

21 Nov 2025

41 MINS

41:24

21 Nov 2025


#1536

Shredded: Zoom, BrightHire, Equifax, Vault Verify, Employ Inc., Jobot, Workday, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

20 Nov 2025

05 MINS

05:49

20 Nov 2025


#1535

Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy

Forget everything you know about leadership. In the latest episode with Chad and Joel, beh... more

18 Nov 2025

35 MINS

35:36

18 Nov 2025


#1534

Indeed Stranglehold Gets Tighter and Tighter

Buckle up, kids, the boys are comin' in hot this week. Personio just chopped headcount and... more

14 Nov 2025

53 MINS

53:37

14 Nov 2025


#1533

Shredded: Ridepanda, Planbase, Boostie, Scribe, LinkedIn, hireEZ, GigRadar, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

13 Nov 2025

07 MINS

07:35

13 Nov 2025


#1532

5 Must Have Agents for TA w/ David Weinstock

LIVE from the Recfest USA stage in Nashville! David Weinstock is a modern Talent Acquisiti... more

11 Nov 2025

47 MINS

47:00

11 Nov 2025


#1531

Will SAP and Workday Go Amazon?

In this episode, we ask if SAP + SmartRecruiters and/or Workday + Paradox can go FULL Amaz... more

07 Nov 2025

53 MINS

53:26

07 Nov 2025


#1530

Shredded: VeroSkills, ADP, Pequity, Personio, Waymo, Deel, Upwork & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

06 Nov 2025

05 MINS

05:25

06 Nov 2025


#1529

Fighting Job Seeker Fraud

High-volume recruiting is officially in its “everything is on fire” era. Applicant fraud i... more

04 Nov 2025

41 MINS

41:04

04 Nov 2025


#1528

iCIMS Awakes, Amazon Axes, and Monster Shambles On

Another full serving of red meat on The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Joel unleashes the layoff b... more

31 Oct 2025

55 MINS

55:20

31 Oct 2025


#1527

Shredded: AuditBoard, FairNow, Amazon, Mercor, Eightfold AI, Greenhouse Software, UKG, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

30 Oct 2025

07 MINS

07:09

30 Oct 2025


#1526

Supercharge Your Conversions w/ Shay Johnson

What happens when a global powerhouse doing 180,000 hires a year gets tired of lighting ca... more

28 Oct 2025

36 MINS

36:37

28 Oct 2025


#1525

Facebook Jobs Rises While OpenAI Gets Dirty

This week's episode opens with a layoffs avalanche that could bury a small HR department. ... more

24 Oct 2025

59 MINS

59:41

24 Oct 2025


#1524

Shredded: Aragorn AI, Jack & Jill, Armstrong, Appcast, Micro1, Veritone, Casium & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

23 Oct 2025

08 MINS

08:07

23 Oct 2025


#1523

It’s All In Your Head w/ Barry Wolfe

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash intervie... more

21 Oct 2025

29 MINS

29:54

21 Oct 2025


#1522

Chicken Cock Live

A Scotsman, two clowns and a whole bunch of TA professionals walk into a Chicken Cock spea... more

17 Oct 2025

36 MINS

36:05

17 Oct 2025


#1521

Shredded: GigRadar, Upsky, Humanly, Sprockets, Qualifi, HourWork, Facebook & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The S... more

16 Oct 2025

04 MINS

04:35

16 Oct 2025