Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive podcast

Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Intimate, personal portraits of both known and long-forgotten champions, heroes, and witnesses to history brought to you from rare archival interviews.

Intimate, personal portraits of both known and long-forgotten champions, heroes, and witnesses to history brought to you from rare archival interviews.

 

#142

Bonus: WWFKD — Drawing Strength from One of Our Movement’s Most Ferocious Crusaders

Frank Kameny lived by three rules: have absolute confidence in your beliefs; fight for what’s right; never, ever give up. Let them be a battle cry in these dark times. Visit [MGH’s webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/episode-1-5/) for the original 2016 episode featuring Frank Kameny for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as the episode’s transcript.  ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

08 Nov 2024

21 MINS

21:22

08 Nov 2024


#141

Guest Episode: But We Loved: Evan Wolfson, Godfather of the Marriage Equality Movement

In 1983 Evan Wolfson wrote a law school thesis that asserted that gay people had a constitutional right to marry. Thirty-two years later, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed as much. In this guest episode from But We Loved, get to know the man behind one of the biggest victories in the history of the LGBTQ civil rights movement.  Learn more about Evan Wolfson and the Freedom to Marry campaign [here] (http://www.freedomtomarry.org/pages/how-it-happened) . Find more episodes of But We Loved, a production of iHeartPodcasts and the Outspoken Podcast Network, [here] (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-but-we-loved-174494262/) or on your favorite podcast platform. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

24 Jul 2024

43 MINS

43:19

24 Jul 2024


#140

Stonewall 55: Episode 3: “Say It Loud! Gay & Proud!”

Like so many other acts of LGBTQ resistance, the 1969 Stonewall riots could have become a footnote in history. But the protests and organizing that followed launched a new phase in the fight for LGBTQ rights. Hear how anger found its voice and how joy propelled the first Pride marches. First aired June 20, 2019. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/stonewall-50-episode-3-say-it-loud-gay-proud/) for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as the episode’s transcript.  To hear more from Craig Rodwell, go [here] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/stonewall-50-minisode-4-craig-rodwell/) . And listen to Barbara Gittings and Kay Lahusen [here] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/stonewall-50-minisode-3-barbara-gittings-kay-lahusen/) as they discuss how homophile activists fared in the heady days of post-Stonewall organizing. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [ our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

28 Jun 2024

40 MINS

40:09

28 Jun 2024


#139

Stonewall 55: Episode 2: “Everything Clicked… And the Riot Was On”

The Stonewall uprising began in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969. Revisit that moment, and the hours and days that followed, with voices from the Making Gay History archive. Relive in vivid detail the dawning of a new chapter in the fight for LGBTQ rights.  First aired June 13, 2019. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/stonewall-50-episode-2-everything-clicked-and-the-riot-was-on/) for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well the episode’s transcript.  To hear more of Marsha P. Johnson and Randy Wicker’s conversation about Stonewall, go [here] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/stonewall-50-minisode-1-marsha-p-johnson-randy-wicker/) . And listen to Morty Manford’s account of the riots [here] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/stonewall-50-minisode-2-morty-manford/) . For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [ ] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

21 Jun 2024

33 MINS

33:24

21 Jun 2024


#138

Stonewall 55: Episode 1: Prelude to a Riot

Conflict has context. In this first episode of Making Gay History’s Stonewall season, we hear stories from the pre-Stonewall struggle for LGBTQ rights. We travel back in time to the turbulent 1960s and take you to the tinderbox that was Greenwich Village on the eve of an uprising. First aired June 6, 2019. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/stonewall-50-episode-1-prelude-to-a-riot/) for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as the episode’s transcript.  For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [ our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

14 Jun 2024

37 MINS

37:05

14 Jun 2024


#137

Stonewall 55: Episode 0: Myth & Meaning

Can historical and emotional truth coexist? For the 55th anniversary of the uprising, Eric and fellow LGBTQ history expert Ken Lustbader talk to Stonewall National Monument visitors and let a few myths slip by to uncover Stonewall’s moving resonance as a symbol of LGBTQ liberation and joy. This episode is a co-production of Making Gay History and the [NYC LGBT Historic Sites Project] (https://www.nyclgbtsites.org/) , in partnership with the [National Park Service] (https://www.nps.gov/ston/index.htm) . Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/stonewall-55-myth-meaning/) for a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

14 Jun 2024

31 MINS

31:01

14 Jun 2024


#136

Bonus: Feminist Bookstores: A Love Story — with June Thomas

As a bookish lesbian growing up in working-class England, June Thomas developed an early love of bookstores. After moving to the U.S. in the 1980s, she found community in the feminist bookstores of the era, as she recounts in [A Place of Our Own: Six Spaces That Shaped Queer Women's Culture] (https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/june-thomas/a-place-of-our-own/9781541601741/) . Visit our [episode webpage ] (https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/feminist-bookstores-a-love-story-with-june-thomas/) for a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . Episode Art: The Old Wives’ Tales Collective, San Francisco, 1982: Carol Seajay, Pell, Sherry Thomas, Tiana Arruda, and Kit Quan. © 1982 JEB (Joan E. Biren).  ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

23 May 2024

28 MINS

28:27

23 May 2024


#135

Guest Episode: Blindspot: The Plague in the Shadows: Mourning in America

Valerie Reyes-Jimenez called it “The Monster.” That’s how some people described HIV and AIDS in the 1980s. Valerie thinks as many as 75 people from her block on New York City’s Lower East Side died. They were succumbing to an illness that was not recognized as the same virus that was killing young, white, gay men just across town in the West Village. At the same time, in Washington, D.C., Gil Gerald, a Black LGBTQ+ activist, saw his own friends and colleagues begin to disappear, dying out of sight and largely ignored by the wider world. In this guest episode from WNYC Studios’ new Blindspot series, hear how HIV and AIDS was misunderstood from the start—and how this would shape the reactions of governments, the medical establishment, and numerous communities for years to come.  Listen and subscribe to the rest of the series [here] (https://link.chtbl.com/blindspotpodcast?sid=nfa) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

15 Feb 2024

36 MINS

36:38

15 Feb 2024


#134

Dismantling a Diagnosis: Episode 3: Out of the DSM & into the Present — A Conversation about LGBTQ+ ...

Eric is joined in conversation by Dr. Laura Erickson-Schroth and Dr. Ilan H. Meyer to delve into the past and present of mental health for LGBTQ people.  They discuss historical stigma, the ramifications of the American Psychiatric Association’s declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder 50 years ago, and shifting psychiatric understandings of LGBTQ mental health in relation to societal pressures and prejudice. They also explore the continued pathologization of trans people, and the barriers that exist to finding accessible, safe, and informed care.  The MGH episode about Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld mentioned in the episode can be found [here] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/magnus-hirschfeld/) . Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/dismantling-a-diagnosis-episode-three-out-of-the-dsm-into-the-present/) for additional resources and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

29 Dec 2023

50 MINS

50:13

29 Dec 2023


#133

Dismantling a Diagnosis: Episode 2: The Cure

A half-century ago, millions of homosexuals were cured with the stroke of a pen when the American Psychiatric Association decided to change its diagnostic manual and remove homosexuality from the list of mental disorders.  In this episode, we journey through several milestones in the battle for gay liberation and acceptance as we focus on how the field of psychiatry defined, and distorted, what it meant to be homosexual. Homosexuality was officially classified as a mental disorder in the 1952 edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, but the narrative that equated being gay with being mentally ill had been emerging for decades. The nascent gay rights movement in the 1950s was caught between believing the sickness narrative and seeking treatment, and questioning the diagnosis and using their own voices to fight back. A groundbreaking 1956 study by psychologist Dr. Evelyn Hooker debunked the notion that gay men were, by default, mentally ill, and even though societal pressures dissuaded Dr. Hooker from extending her study to lesbians, her research gave activists a foundation to advance the discourse. The years that followed brought continued campaigning by gay activists, and with the help of enlightened psychiatrists who became allies and closeted gay psychiatrists who had the courage to speak out, 1973 brought victory. The APA overturned its classification, effectively “curing” millions of homosexuals overnight. Visit [our episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/dismantling-a-diagnosis-episode-two-the-cure/) for additional resources and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

22 Dec 2023

48 MINS

48:18

22 Dec 2023


#132

Dismantling a Diagnosis: Episode 1: A Kind of Madness

In the 1950s, psychiatrists diagnosed all homosexuals with a mental illness, and the sickness label created new forms of oppression for gay people in America. The sickness label was pervasive and seemingly inescapable. Until 1973, according to the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (the DSM), homosexuality was a mental disorder. In this first episode of Making Gay History’s “Dismantling a Diagnosis” miniseries, you’ll hear testimony from Eric Marcus’s archive describing this dangerous diagnosis and how the label affected the lives of LGBTQ people in the 1940s, ’50s and '60s. We also explore the crucial role of psychiatric pseudoscience in propagating misinformation about homosexuality. And through first-hand accounts recorded decades ago, you’ll hear from gay men and lesbians who were subjected to therapies or treatments aimed at “curing” their homosexuality. In the words of activist Morris Kight, “Imagine trying to burn out of your brain your love.” Visit [our episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/dismantling-a-diagnosis-episode-one-a-kind-of-madness/) for additional resources and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

15 Dec 2023

27 MINS

27:34

15 Dec 2023


#131

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 6: Marching On

In 1978 Harvey Milk calls on gay people to gather in D.C. the next year to protest the anti-gay campaigns of Anita Bryant and her ilk. Organizers are stymied by internal conflicts until Milk’s assassination galvanizes them and a date for a national march is set. But will anyone show up? Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-six-marching-on/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

29 Jun 2023

1 HR 01 MINS

1:01:53

29 Jun 2023


#130

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 5: Thank You, Anita

Eric gets an A on his freshman sociology paper, “Marginal Man: The Alcoholic and the Homosexual.” But his sunny predictions for the future of the gay rights movement are met with skepticism from his professor. Mere weeks later, Anita Bryant launches her anti-gay “Save Our Children” campaign. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-five-thank-you-anita/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

08 Jun 2023

53 MINS

53:02

08 Jun 2023


#129

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 4: Respectable

Gay rights activists in NYC are first out of the gate to propose anti-discrimination legislation, confident it will sail through the City Council. Instead, they hit a wall of ignorance and bigotry. Meanwhile, 15-year-old Eric happens upon some revelatory literature in his dentist’s waiting room. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-four-respectable/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

25 May 2023

50 MINS

50:59

25 May 2023


#128

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 3: Family Ties

When Jeanne Manford’s gay son is badly beaten at a 1972 GAA protest, the shy elementary school teacher takes a stand. She cofounds the organization now known as PFLAG and launches a movement that harnesses the strength of our fiercest allies: parents and the other people who love us. Visit our [ episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-three-family-ties/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

11 May 2023

50 MINS

50:56

11 May 2023


#127

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 2: Fire Island and Other Stories

While activists are demonstrating, filing lawsuits, and pushing for anti-discrimination laws, 16-year-old Eric is on a ferry to Fire Island, a legendary gay refuge off Long Island, with his neighbor Rev. Mullen—a trip that would introduce him to a vivid slice of mid-1970s gay life, ready or not. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-two-fire-island-and-other-stories/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

27 Apr 2023

49 MINS

49:47

27 Apr 2023


#126

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Chapter 1: A Surge of Energy

The Stonewall uprising ignites an explosion of protests and organizing that transforms a small, often tentative homophile movement into a newly assertive national force that demands gay liberation and equality. In a Puerto Rico hotel pool, 12-year-old Eric experiences a transformation of his own. Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/chapter-one-a-surge-of-energy/) for additional resources, archival photos, and a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . Episode art photo: Gay Liberation Front Poster Image (1970) by Peter Hujar. Credit: © 2023 The Peter Hujar Archive / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

13 Apr 2023

31 MINS

31:03

13 Apr 2023


#125

Coming of Age During the 1970s: Preview

The decade between Stonewall and the 1979 March on Washington lives in the shadow of the AIDS crisis and all that came after. In this six-part season, Eric Marcus explores the heady years of gay liberation and the backlash that followed against the backdrop of his own coming of age as a gay teen. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

06 Apr 2023

03 MINS

03:34

06 Apr 2023


#124

Guest Episode: Sidedoor: Lucy Hicks Anderson

Known for her smashing parties, lighter-than-air soufflés, and comedic wit, Lucy Hicks Anderson never let anyone tell her how to live her life—not even the courts. When her gender was put on trial in the 1940s, the publicity around her case made her one the first documented Black transgender figures in American history. Find more Sidedoor episodes at [si.edu/sidedoor] (http://si.edu/sidedoor) or wherever you get your podcasts. For additional resources about Lucy Hicks Anderson, go [here] (http://go.si.edu/site/MessageViewer?em_id=103459.0&printer_friendly=1) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

23 Feb 2023

27 MINS

27:44

23 Feb 2023


#123

Bonus: A Complicated Love Story

Wait, THAT Harvey? When activist Craig Rodwell told Eric in 1989 who his first serious boyfriend had been, Eric was stunned. In our special Valentine’s Day episode, hear how love unfolded—and unraveled—for two of our movement’s titans. This episode discusses a suicide attempt. If you’re having thoughts of suicide, please contact your country’s suicide prevention hotline. In the U.S., that’s the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, which you can call or text toll-free at 988. Visit [our episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/a-complicated-love-story/) for the episode transcript and for links to background information, archival photos, and other resources. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

14 Feb 2023

14 MINS

14:25

14 Feb 2023


#122

Season 11: Episode 6: Kathleen Boatwright

When Kathleen Boatwright fell in love with a woman at church, she fell hard. But this was no carefree romance. The church was staunchly anti-gay. Kathleen was married to a man and had four children. She’d never had a relationship with a woman. As she told Eric in 1989, it was “Pentecostal hysteria.” Visit our [episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/kathleen-boatwright/) for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

08 Dec 2022

26 MINS

26:58

08 Dec 2022


#121

Season 11: Episode 5: Robert Bauman

In 1980, conservative congressman Robert Bauman was caught soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. The scandal landed the married father of four on the front page of newspapers across the country. It spelled the end of his political career—and the start of a years-long journey toward self-acceptance. Visit [our episode webpage] (https://makinggayhistory.com/podcast/robert-bauman/) for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join [our Patreon community] (https://www.patreon.com/makinggayhistory) . ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: [https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy] (https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices] (https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices) ... Read more

01 Dec 2022

30 MINS

30:49

01 Dec 2022