Today, we're exploring the hidden history of women in ministry through the lens of the pastor's wife role. Historian Beth Allison Barr takes us on a journey that challenges everything we think we know about women's leadership in the church. We'll trace how women went from being active leaders in the early Christian church to being systematically pushed out of ministry. Barr reveals how the pastor's wife role evolved from a radical act of Protestant resistance to a complex system that both empowered and constrained women. The conversation digs into some tough terrain - how complementarian theology has created environments where women's ministry is limited, and in some cases, where abuse has been hidden. But it's not just a story of limitation. It's a powerful call for reimagining how men and women can work together in ministry. At its heart, this is a conversation about breaking down barriers, recognizing historical complicity, and creating spaces where all people can fully express their calling - regardless of gender. We'll explore how the Southern Baptist Convention became a flashpoint for these debates, why ordination became a weapon against women's leadership, and most importantly, how we might move forward toward mutual flourishing in church communities. Get ready for a conversation that challenges, enlightens, and offers a hopeful vision for the future of ministry.Beth Allison Barr (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is James Vardaman Endowed Chair of History at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women’s history, and church history. She is the author of the USA Today bestseller The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. Her work has been featured by NPR and the New Yorker, and she has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. Barr lives in Texas with her husband, a Baptist pastor, and their two children.Beth's Book:<a href='https://amzn.to/3FEiAes'>Becoming the Pastor's Wife</a>Beth's Recommendations:<a href='https://amzn.to/3FEG3fv'>The Anti-Greed Gospel</a><a href='https://amzn.to/426d50Y'>We Refuse</a>Subscribe to Our Substack: <a href='https://shiftingculture.substack.com/'>Shifting Culture</a> Connect with Joshua: jjohnson@allnations.us Go to <a href='https://www.shiftingculturepodcast.com'>www.shiftingculturepodcast.com</a> to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy. Follow on <a href='https://www.facebook.com/shiftingculturepodcast'>Facebook</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/shiftingculturepodcast/'>Instagram</a>, <a href='https://twitter.com/shiftingcultur2'>Twitter</a>, <a href='https://www.threads.net/@shiftingculturepodcast'>Threads</a>, <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/shiftingculture.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a> or <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@shiftingculturepodcast'>YouTube</a> Consider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link belowEmail jjohnson@allnations.us, so we can get your creative project off the ground! <a rel="payment" href="https://allnations.kindful.com/?campaign=329535">Support the show</a>

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