Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.)

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Transcripts: <a href="http://podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11">Unofficial but surprisingly good</a>.

Links:

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<li><a href="https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45750644/mlb-all-star-game-2025-swing-home-run-kyle-schwarber">The MLB All-Star Game "swing-off"</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://nuphy.com/collections/keyboards/products/nuphy-kick75-page">NuPhy Kick75 mechanical Bluetooth keyboard</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ifxrok/apple_m0116_vintage_adb_mechanical_keyboard_with/">The weird key layout of the Apple Keyboard (ADB)</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tinkerboy.xyz/product/tinkerboy-adb-to-usb-keyboard-mouse-converter/">Tinkerboy’s ADB-to-USB adapter</a>. (Email Tinkerboy if you’re interested — he has a USB-C adapter too, not listed on the website.)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1">Jason’s keyboard</a> and <a href="https://www.thockking.com/products/c3-tkc-equalz-kiwi-tactile-67-switches">the switches</a> inside.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.theenthusiast.net/john-gruber-state-of-the-workflow/">John on Myke Hurley’s “The State of the Workflow”</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/07/17/apple-sues-jon-prosser-ios-26-leaks/">Apple sues Jon Prosser over Liquid Glass leaks</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@gruber/114887950390338430">Un-redacting the redacted names in the lawsuit</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Secret">Wikipedia on Think Secret and "Nick DePlume"</a>, its pseudonymous author. See also: <a href="https://daringfireball.net/search/think+secret">Vintage DF coverage of Think Secret</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.davidcarsondesign.com/t/tag/raygun/">Ray Gun magazine and designer David Carson</a>.</li>
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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