<p>Our guest-host today is <a href="https://www.suburbanpermaculture.org/">Jan Spencer</a>, bringing with him insights and guidance about sustainability and what he calls <a href="https://www.aprimerforparadigmshift.org/">A Primer for Paradigm Shift</a>. Jan has been at this for some decades, observing others moving toward sustainability, learning various systems, ideas, and techniques to support the transition, and experimenting with it on his own suburban property in Eugene, Oregon.</p>

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