Mike talks with former Democratic activist Lisa Ekman, whose recently released book is titled<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Deprogramming-Democrats-unEducating-Elites-Progressive-ebook/dp/B0CW1DWRPS/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wx5knx6RWMMg88LPl6S4k57AaxASidy46c3NdB54ORs.tTOS48e94qpfD4gmf0e2uQd9xQM44tUgVOEA5CNhJZQ&dib_tag=se&qid=1761665047&refinements=p_27%3ALisa+Ekman&s=books&sr=1-3"> Deprogramming Democrats & unEducating the Elites: How I Escaped the Progressive Cult</a>.
Topics Mike &  Lisa discuss include:
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Ekman’s background in Democratic politics
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government and expert failure during COVID
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the tension between public health policy and liberty
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the problem with replacing equality with equity
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communist thinking in classrooms
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returning power to the states and the people
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<a href="https://x.com/deprogrammeddem">Lisa Ekman on X</a>
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