This week we’re talking with Jonathan Carter who’s on his fourth term as Debian Project Lead (DPL) and we’re talking about 30 years of Debian!

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Featuring:
<ul><li>Jonathan Carter &ndash; <a href="https://pleroma.debian.social/@highvoltage" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathancarter" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://jonathancarter.org" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>

Show Notes:
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<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/">A Brief History of Debian</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines">Debian Free Software Guidelines</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guideline">The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/platforms/jcc">DPL Platform (2022)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders">Debian project leaders</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debian.org/intro/about">About Debian</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.debconf.org">debconf.org</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/">PinePhone </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.spi-inc.org">Software in the Public Interest (SPI)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/237">Changelog Interviews #237: Reproducible builds and secure software</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hackclub.com">hackclub.com</a></li>
</ul>

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Timestamps:

(00:00) - This week on The Changelog(01:24) - Sponsor: Sentry(04:57) - Start the show!(06:17) - Debian Project Lead (DPL)(10:03) - From Ubuntu to Debian(15:09) - How does Debian work?(17:59) - On-ramping marginalized contribs(19:51) - Formulization of Debian(23:04) - Stability of Trusted Organizations (TOs)(27:55) - Who is "Bookworm"?(31:54) - Sponsor: Tailscale(35:30) - Free as in freedom (and beer)(41:20) - What is a Linux distribution?(45:30) - We need OS choice on mobile(50:14) - Proxmox builds on Debian(55:11) - Linux on Apple hardware(58:59) - Feels on Ubuntu(1:01:57) - Feels on Arch(1:03:30) - The state of the enterprise Linux standard(1:06:18) - Why not Debian?(1:15:29) - What it takes to run for DPL?(1:17:44) - Jonathan's day job(1:21:07) - The human history of Debian(1:27:13) - Consider Hackclub's model(1:28:38) - Wrapping up(1:29:09) - Outro

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