Today we find out why Sarah is in a zen period (maybe Susie's giggle phase brings Sarah peace?). We discuss an art installation Sarah went to, and why she loved it, but worries about the implications. We find out about an elephant in the Bronx zoo who is lonely because her best friend got murdered (!), and the only answer is for her to become...a person? We debate the ethics of zoos and we fantasize about animals going to court. Plus, we talk to Suzanne O'Sullivan about her book The Sleeping Beauties and the reasons why "psychosomatic" illnesses are more complicated than they appear. Join our book club, shop our merch, sign-up for our free newsletter, & more by visiting The Brain Candy Podcast website:  Connect with us on social media: BCP Instagram:  Susie's Instagram:  Sarah's Instagram:  BCP Twitter:  Susie's Twitter:  Sarah's Twitter:  For 20% off your first order, go to  For a free trial of Noom, visit  Get 10% off your first month of therapy at  To try the greatest vitamins ever, go to  More podcasts at WAVE:

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