Paul Elie, who writes about the Catholic Church for The New Yorker, joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss the life and legacy of Pope Francis, his feuds with traditionalist Church figures and right-wing political leaders, and what to expect from the upcoming papal conclave to determine his successor. This week’s reading:<ul>
<li>“<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/postscript/the-down-to-earth-pope-francis">The Down-to-Earth Pope</a>,” by Paul Elie</li>
<li>“<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/pope-franciss-tangled-relationship-with-argentina">Pope Francis’s Tangled Relationship with Argentina</a>,” by Graciela Mochkofsky</li>
<li>“<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/04/28/claudia-sheinbaum-profile">The Mexican President Who’s Facing Off with Trump</a>,” by Stephania Taladrid</li>
<li>“<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-cost-of-defunding-harvard">The Cost of Defunding Harvard</a>,” by Atul Gawande</li>
<li>“<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/the-supreme-court-finally-takes-on-trump">The Supreme Court Finally Takes On Trump</a>,” by Ruth Marcus </li>
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