In this episode, BJ and Jess sit down to explore what it really means to race free—to show up for your goals with full heart and zero attachment.
BJ shares his winning mindset as he prepares for Ironman Arizona, revealing what it takes to truly go for the win. Jess brings insight from her own path toward El Cruce, a three-day ultramarathon through the Andes, and the inner transformation that’s unfolded along the way.
Together, they unpack:
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<li>The art of racing with nothing to lose</li>
<li>The struggle as the pathway to ease</li>
<li>Why the mind creates problems—and how to rise above them</li>
<li>The importance of letting your partner or loved one have their process</li>
<li>What true surrender really is</li>
<li>The outcome of truly training the mind</li>
<li>Plus, Jess shares a story she never told on Awake Athlete—the moment at altitude that changed everything—and reflects on the last words her dad shared with her mom before he passed.</li>
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It’s raw, real, and full of lessons from the front lines of racing, relationship, and self-mastery. Enjoy the show!

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