Relying on filler words like "um," "like," and "you know" is a universal habit that clutters our speech and betrays our nerves, but simply willing yourself to stop only makes the problem worse. Today on How To!, Mike Pesca is joined by renowned data journalist and author Nate Silver, who bravely steps up as the guinea pig to have his own fast-talking, filler-heavy conversational style diagnosed in real-time. Then, communications coach Michael Chad Hepner, author of Don't Say, steps in to break down the physical mechanics of communication—treating speaking as an athletic act—and offers actionable, kinesthetic strategies like "catching the ball" and "walking the fingers" to help anyone slow down, pause, and speak with confident precision. Executive Producer Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Booking by Ben Astaire Do you have a burning question or a problem you need help with? Email us at <a href="mailto:howto@mikepesca.com" target= "_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" aria-haspopup= "menu">howto@mikepesca.com</a> and we will consider your topic for the show. For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at <a href="https://www.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.mikepesca.com/</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To receive ad-free content, become a Pesca Plus subscriber at ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/</a> For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List <a href="https://mikepesca.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mikepesca.substack.com/</a> Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/</a> X <a href="https://x.com/pescami" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/pescami</a> YouTube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pescagist" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@pescagist</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist</a> To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href= "mailto:ad-sales@libsyn.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer" aria-haspopup= "menu">ad-sales@libsyn.com</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href= "https://advertising.libsyn.com/howto" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">https://advertising.libsyn.com/howto</a>

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