The vibe for this recording was solemn even if the co-hosts  <a href= "https://www.hillsdale.edu/faculty/korey-maas/">Korey Maas</a> (Lutheran), <a href= "https://www.hillsdale.edu/faculty/miles-smith-iv/">Miles Smith</a> (Anglican), and <a href= "https://www.hillsdale.edu/faculty/darryl-hart/">D. G. Hart</a> (Presbyterian) were also excited for the upcoming marriage of our only confessional Protestant bachelor (sorry ladies). The reason for the somber mood was Miles Smith's <a href= "https://mereorthodoxy.com/perdition">piece at MereOrthodoxy</a> on evangelicals and politics.  There he suggests that American Protestants have lost a sense of nations sitting under God's judgment. In which case, the presidential campaign and the results could be less a story of redemption than they reveal God's rebuke of an errant society.    From that starting point, conversation ranged to the degree to which confessional Protestants suffer from viewing the United States as a redeemer nation, how millennialism affects nationalism, differing estimates (Augustinian or Eusebian) of Christian government, and even whether Christians can learn a tragic sense of politics from H. L. Mencken.  No sponsors, but it should have been Joy dishwashing detergent.

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