Join Lionel for an entertaining and informative session, starting with a deep dive into UFOs and UAPs alongside Nick Pope, former UK Ministry of Defense investigator and the most respected voice in global UFO investigation. Pope shares insights on the Rendlesham Forest incident, government secrecy, and the perennial question of intelligent life. The discussion then spirals into a wide-ranging, chaotic mix of topics, including the search for consciousness, the societal implications of finding extraterrestrial life, mysterious drone sightings near airports, and conspiracy theories surrounding the Charlie Kirk case. Listeners also weigh in on intense personal subjects, including the pathology of social media use, the unique challenges of open marriages, and whether rapid technological progress requires "intelligent design". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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