In the year since President Trump won re-election, in part, by capitalizing on sitdowns on friendly podcasts, Democrats have been looking for their own answer to the so-called “manosphere.” One of the top contenders has emerged from a very unlikely place: bright red Oklahoma. That’s where Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan started their hit show, “I’ve Had It.” They’ve interviewed some of the biggest names on the left side of the political spectrum, like former President Obama, New York Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, and Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders. Welch in particular has gone viral for testy exchanges with former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker. 

Kara and Jennifer talk about what it was like to be a liberal atheist in the Bible Belt, why Jeniffer finds centrist Democrats more frustrating than MAGA, and why she’s skeptical about Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s recent break with Trump. They also talk about what Democrats get wrong about red states like Oklahoma, and what she thinks the party needs to do to appeal to voters outside the coasts and big cities. 

Please note: The original interview for this episode was taped Friday morning, before Greene announced her decision to resign from Congress in January and Mandani met with Trump. We taped a second interview on Saturday morning to get Jennifer’s reaction to the news. 

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