What makes us change – or not change? Change happens to all of us – but what actually happens to us when we change, and how does that change stick? Sometimes there isn't a clear answer, but <a href="https://www.benoitdenizetlewis.com/"target="_blank" >Benoit Denizet-Lewis</a>, associate professor at Emerson College and author of the book You've Changed: the Promise and Price of Self Transformation, tried to find out what makes change happen. He followed bullies who became Buddhists, gay atheists who became straight evangelicals, political party switchers, people in personality disorder therapy, and prisoners seeking parole.Brittany is joined by Benoit to find out how change happens to us – and how we understand personal transformation in our culture. For more episodes about how we change or how to make it happen, check out:<a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844781/were-having-a-main-character-summer-are-you"target="_blank" >This is your summer of self-love</a><a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/05/18/nx-s1-5822535/free-will-and-the-cult-of-high-agency"target="_blank" >Free will and the cult of "high agency"</a><a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/05/06/nx-s1-5810552/how-to-survive-a-millennial-midlife-crisis"target="_blank" >How to survive a millennial midlife crisis</a> Support Public Media.<a href="https://plus.npr.org/"target="_blank" > Join NPR Plus.</a> Follow Brittany on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/bmluse/?hl=en"target="_blank" > @bmluse</a> For handpicked podcast recommendations every week, subscribe to NPR’s Pod Club newsletter at<a href="http://npr.org/podclub"target="_blank" > npr.org/podclub</a>. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. <a href="https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy">NPR Privacy Policy</a>

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