This week we’re joined by Haroon Meer from Thinkst — the makers of Canary and Canary Tokens. Haroon walks us through a network getting compromised, what it takes to deploy a Canary on your network, how they maintain low false-positive numbers, their thoughts and principles on building their business (major wisdom shared!), and how a Canary helps surface network attacks in real time.

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Featuring:
<ul><li>Haroon Meer &ndash; <a href="https://twitter.com/haroonmeer" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/haroonmeer" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://thinkst.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>

Show Notes:
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<li><a href="https://thinkst.com">Thinkst Applied Research</a></li>
<li><a href="https://canary.tools">Thinkst Canary</a></li>
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Timestamps:

(00:00) - This week on The Changelog(01:00) - Sponsor: Statsig(04:28) - Start the show!(05:32) - Canary tokens(10:03) - The footprint of a Canary(14:23) - The Homelab lens(16:43) - Fingerprinting a Canary(18:45) - Masquerading as many things(24:02) - Ratio of Canaries to real hardware?(28:47) - Sponsor: Sentry(32:26) - False positives(34:11) - How are attackers getting in?(39:10) - How do you masquerade well?(41:45) - Bootstrapping Thinkst and Canary(53:31) - Adding too many things(59:35) - Just be kind(1:03:21) - Regarding dead Canaries(1:05:53) - How Canaries get deployed(1:12:00) - Sponsor: Changelog News(1:13:44) - Do you care about hardware?(1:20:06) - Adam's attack!!(1:25:10) - Where else can/will you go?(1:29:04) - Thoughts on the VC model(1:40:51) - Save it for ++(1:41:40) - Up next!

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