This summer, wildfires have been raging across Europe. France and Spain have been hit particularly badly, with hundreds of thousands of acres incinerated and entire communities devastated.
Chico Harlan, the global climate correspondent for The New York Times, and Mark Landler, the Paris bureau chief, explain how much the continent may need to adapt to climate change.
Guest:
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/chico-harlan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chico Harlan</a>, the global climate correspondent for The New York Times, covering the changing planet.</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/mark-landler" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mark Landler</a>, the Paris bureau chief of The New York Times, covering France, trans-Atlantic relations and the future of Europe.</li>
</ul>
Background reading: 
<ul>
 <li>Europe’s summer of reckoning is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/29/world/europe/summer-heat-wave-fires-climate-change.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">“just the beginning.”</a></li>
 <li>The fires in France and Spain have been <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/07/28/world/europe/france-spain-wildfires-2026-fire-season.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">breaking modern records</a>.</li>
</ul>
Photo: Baz Ratner/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
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