YERRR – this one’s a political rollercoaster with Ezra Klein in the building, and nothing’s off limits. From Mike Johnson shutting down the Epstein vote to Trump’s sketchy second‑term plans, Ezra helps the boys connect the dots on conspiracies, power grabs, and why reform feels impossible.

They get deep into Project 2025, the rising cost of education, polarization, and why the Democratic Party might need a full rebuild. Plus: social mobility, Mamdani’s policies, and why forming real coalitions is harder than anyone admits.

And of course—Colbert getting axed, CBS’s mess, and keeping the pressure on those Epstein files.

All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE.

00:00 Mike Johnson stops Epstein vote + conspiracy
6:45 Trump loves to draw, Panic mode + He knew
12:28 Trump's Watergate? Don't get distracted
17:52 2nd term = all Trump's appointees
23:33 Dems are not reformers + Need for open primaries
31:49 Polarization on institutions + Opportunity for Dems
39:55 Dems keeping their distance + Defined by Mamdani
46:54 Project 2025 + Curtailing colleges
57:30 Need to look at institutions
1:02:26 Rising cost of education + What is it for?
1:13:31 Social mobility & Mamdani
1:19:49 Poirier Holloway was great
1:25:48 de Blasio + Other Mamdani's policies
1:33:06 Free and plentiful + Abundance
1:44:23 Horseshoe Theory + Forming coalitions are hard
2:03:44 Have to acknowledge own failings + Trump trust
2:12:12 My bad with Dave Portnoy
2:17:50 What the new Democratic Party needs to be?
2:31:45 Colbert cancelled + CBS merger
2:47:44 Trump's potential dangerous distractions
2:52:51 Mahmoud Khalil + Weaponization of speech
2:56:33 Keep pressure on Epstein files Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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