Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, Apple in China -- one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written.

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Transcripts: <a href="http://podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11">Unofficial but surprisingly good</a>.

Links:

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<li>“<a href="https://bookshop.org/a/56320/9781668053379">Apple in China</a>”, Patrick’s spectacular new book.</li>
<li><a href="https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/05/22/mcgee-daily-show">Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/technology/article/how-apple-helped-china-become-americas-biggest-tech-rival-8f83tttv5">Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London</a>.</li>
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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