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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about the bunt&#8217;s rehabilitation and (17:49) the President publicly picking a side in MLB&#8217;s labor battle, then talk to two guests about falling in love with and learning about baseball as adults. First (32:35), beloved BBC presenter and The Guardian columnist Adrian Chiles breaks his baseball silence to expound on how he got bitten by the baseball bug, his long-distance Rays relationship, the loneliness of following baseball from afar, cross-sport comparisons, Chiles-like wonder, and what mystifies him as a fan. Second (1:21:39), Jade Van Kley joins to discuss her journey from registered nurse to baseball content creator, bingeing baseball history, finding an audience for baseball lore drops and video diaries of her first season as a fan, and what fascinates her about the sport. 
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<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-year-of-the-left-handed-hitter/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Leo on left-handed hitting</a>
<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/its-the-year-of-the-bunt-so-far/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Other Ben on bunting</a>
<a href="https://effectivelywild.fandom.com/wiki/Episode_2084:_The_Sexiest_Free_Agents_Alive#Stat_Blast" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Stat Blast about bunting</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW12BT9pYEw" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to The Wire quote</a>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/news/samad-taylor-padres-bunt-their-way-to-victory-over-the-reds" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Padres&#8217; three bunts</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/trumpstaxes.com/post/3mnsygygnyc2z" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to MSG boos</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNMRF4ADFk#t=19m23s" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Trump interview comments</a>
<a href="https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/107710/in-the-dirt-the-biggest-wildcard-in-mlbs-looming-lockout-is-donald-trump/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to BP on Trump comments</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7336676/2026/06/05/trump-mlb-salary-cap-owners-labor/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Drellich on Trump comments</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7037067/2026/02/11/mlb-president-trump-labor-issue-wbc/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Drellich on Trump&#8217;s influence</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6621004/2025/09/11/trump-yankees-game-president-attendance/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Trump&#8217;s Yankee Stadium visit</a>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/news/dodgers-visit-white-house-to-celebrate-2024-world-series-title" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Dodgers White House visit</a>
<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/effectively-wild-episode-1539-its-not-the-destination-its-the-journeyman/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to EW episode on Trump&#8217;s baseball past</a>
<a href="https://votehub.com/2026/01/20/the-political-lean-of-pro-sports/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to voter registration research</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/08/science/cattle-disease-screwworm.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to article on screwworms</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/27/hardly-anyone-watches-baseball-in-the-uk-so-why-do-we-keep-speaking-its-language" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Adrian&#8217;s baseball column</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/profile/adrian-chiles" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Adrian&#8217;s Guardian archive</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Chiles" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Chiles wiki</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bromwich_Albion_F.C." rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to West Bromwich Albion wiki</a>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/saturday-live/id285693232" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Adrian&#8217;s BBC show</a>
<a href="https://profilebooks.com/work/the-good-drinker/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Adrian&#8217;s book about drinking</a>
<a href="https://profilebooks.com/work/the-curious-columns-of-adrian-chiles/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Adrian&#8217;s columns collection</a>
<a href="https://www.gq.com/story/adrian-chiles-guardian-columnist-interview" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to article about Adrian 1</a>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/03/adrian-chiles-guardian-column-interview.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to article about Adrian 2</a>
<a href="https://theguyliner.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-adrian-chiles" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to article about Adrian 3</a>
<a href="https://pressgazette.co.uk/news-leaders/adrian-chiles-interview/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to article about Adrian 4</a>
<a href="https://www.thepoke.com/2025/07/12/our-adrian-chiles-guardian-column-title-generator/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Chiles headline generator</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7337442/2026/06/05/manny-machado-get-the-analytics-out-of-the-way/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Machado comments</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Super_League" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to European Super League wiki</a>
<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/effectively-wild-episode-2157-sophomore-lumps/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to EW episode on promotion/relegation</a>
<a href="https://effectivelywild.fandom.com/wiki/Silly_Position" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to &#8220;silly position&#8221; at EW wiki</a>
<a href="https://www.thenile.com.au/books/et-smith/playing-hard-ball/9780349116662?srsltid=AfmBOooiFSfW1KofYNiuZ_Z8xCOcAfZhLCLkSETDZo0nRhb195TfIOqL" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Playing Hard Ball book</a>
<a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Foul_strike_rule" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to foul strike rule</a>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/foul-tip" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to foul tip rule</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snickometer" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Snickometer wiki</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_baseball" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to British baseball wiki</a>
<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/effectively-wild-episode-1355-opening-day-banter-and-the-baseball-brit/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to &#8220;Baseball Brit&#8221; EW episode</a>
<a href="https://blogs.fangraphs.com/effectively-wild-episode-1398-what-mlb-looked-like-in-london/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to &#8220;London Series&#8221; EW episode</a>
<a href="https://www.retroseasons.com/teams/chicago-whales/history/logos/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Whales logo</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/backlinenurse" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to @backlinenurse on Instagram</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DVU1_YRk0zD/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Jade interstitial video</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DZTpsrtTwxw/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Jade on her first game</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulphur_Dell" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Sulphur Dell wiki</a>
<a href="https://sabr.org/latest/sabr-digital-library-green-cathedrals-fifth-edition/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Green Cathedrals book</a>
<a href="https://www.theringer.com/2018/05/08/mlb/four-ball-non-walk-ian-kinsler" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Ben on losing track of the count</a>
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&team=0%2Css&pos=p&startdate=&enddate=&season1=1871&season=2026&sortcol=0&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1&pageitems=200" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to pitcher hitting by year</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backline_(stage)" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to backline wiki</a>
<a href="https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2022/03/04/covid-19-tennessee-two-years-old-nashville-nurse-helping-musicians/6893115001/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Jade article 1</a>
<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a38953910/great-resignation-stories/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Link to Jade article 2</a>

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