<p>It's time to light a fire and curl up with a cup of cocoa and a terrifying book full of creepy shit -- or escaping from creepy shit. We've got recommendations for what to read this season! Plus, contributing host Bethany Brookshire tells us about Hellbenders, creatures who sound terrifying but are actually just little guys. She takes us down the rabbit hole of extermination campaigns to get rid of predators and pests, and why they don't always work out.</p>

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Episode 184: Pumpkin Season Books and Hellbenders

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