This week, President Trump said he plans to use the military against America's "enemy within." On this week’s On the Media, how Trump’s rhetoric can obscure the real limits to his powers. Plus, how Humphrey Bogart betrayed the ideals of his most celebrated film.[01:00]  Host Micah Loewinger sits down for an extended conversation with <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net">Jamelle Bouie</a>, columnist at The New York Times. They unpack the unprecedented Quantico meeting, the importance of keeping an eye on history, and why Trump’s mental decline seems to go uncovered by the political press. Plus, a defense of name-calling.[38:26] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with <a href="https://x.com/CoreyRobin">Corey Robin</a>, distinguished professor of political science at Brooklyn College and author of <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/fear-9780195189124">Fear: The History of a Political Idea</a>, on how free speech crackdowns can change our political culture and tear at the fabric of the soul. Plus, how Humphrey Bogart betrayed the ideals of his most celebrated film.Further reading / listening:<ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/01/opinion/trump-2024-election-maga.html?partner=slack&smid=sl-share">“‘The Most Epic Political Victory Our Country Has Ever Seen’ Is Nothing of the Kind”</a> , by Jamelle Bouie</li><li><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/fear-9780195189124">Fear: The History of a Political Idea</a>, by Corey Robin</li></ul>
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