<p>Dr. Ed Uszynski (Ph.D.) is back on the podcast to speak with Tim about a provocative cultural moment: when Max Lucado issued an apology to a multi-ethnic church in San Antonio, TX, following the death of George Floyd. The incident received mixed responses, positively received as being an act of racial reconciliation to being negatively critiqued as an act of bowing to the woke mob. So, Tim and Ed practice perspective-taking in order to understand these differing responses, and they explore some of the particulars and nuances that shape a point of view on a contentious issue. </p><p><a href='https://www.biola.edu/blogs/winsome-conviction/2025/episode-130-offering-apologies-involving-contentious-issues'>Show notes and a full transcript are available</a>.</p>

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