Paris Marx is joined by Ed Niedermeyer to discuss the mission to turn Elon Musk into the world’s first trillionaire, Tesla’s growing interest in making robots instead of cars, and how other automakers are coming for the EV market it once dominated.
Ed Niedermeyer is the author of <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9781948836128">Ludicrous</a> and co-host of the <a href="https://www.autonocast.com">Autonocast</a>.
Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Patreon</a>.
The podcast is made in partnership with <a href="https://www.thenation.com">The Nation</a>. Production is by Kyla Hewson.
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Tesla is paying out a <a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-settles-two-lawsuits-2019-california-crashes-related-autopilot-software-2025-09-16/">series</a> of <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93dqpkwx4xo">lawsuits</a>, and the California DMV has called for a one-month <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/9/18/eyeing-the-future-of-self-driving-cars-musks-tesla-settles-accident-case">ban on Teslas being driven in the state</a>.
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Curious to see what Tesla’s current <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-hit-backlash-over-bizarre-231500117.html">Optimus robot</a> is like?
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Is Tesla the world’s biggest <a href="https://fortune.com/2025/09/06/elon-musk-1-trillion-compensation-pay-package-tesla-shareholders-governance/">meme stock</a>?
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Tesla lied about data relating to a fatal accident until a <a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win-a-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-tesla/">hacker found it</a>.
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<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy50yge052xo">ICE raided a Hyundai plant</a> earlier this month.
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