What are tariffs good for? For years, mainstream economists have basically said: tariffs are not good. They are an import tax paid by consumers, they've said, and they discourage free trade, and we want more! Because free trade has broadly led to more global economic growth. But global trade hasn't been all positive for Americans, and in the worldview of President Trump's administration, tariffs can be used to right some of those wrongs. And the U.S. has economic leverage. So if the U.S. wants to level the playing field, it should use that leverage, and use tariffs to accomplish its policy goals. Today on the show: the case for tariffs. We talk to a lonely economist who's been sounding the alarm for years that more and free-er trade isn't always better. And we speak to economists in President Trump's orbit who make the case for how tariffs can be a potent economic and political tool. This episode was produced by Willa Rubin and edited by Meg Cramer. It was fact-checked by Sarah McClure and engineered by James Willetts. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer. Find more Planet Money: <a href="https://n.pr/3h92GwS">Facebook</a> / <a href="https://n.pr/3FqLuws">Instagram</a> / <a href="https://n.pr/3sGZdrq">TikTok</a> / Our weekly <a href="https://n.pr/3zrFvUB">Newsletter</a>. Listen free at these links: <a href="http://n.pr/PM-digital">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://n.pr/3gTkQlR">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://n.pr/3Bkb17W">the NPR app</a> or anywhere you get podcasts. Help support Planet Money and hear our bonus episodes by subscribing to Planet Money+ <a href="http://n.pr/PM-digital">in Apple Podcasts</a> or at <a href="https://n.pr/3HlREPz">plus.npr.org/planetmoney</a>. Music: Universal Music Production: "Funky Reverie" and "With It;" Audio Network - "Slush Puppy Soul." Learn more about sponsor message choices: <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy">NPR Privacy Policy</a>

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