Forrest and therapist Meg Josephson explore the fawn response, a survival strategy where safety is sought by pleasing other people. They discuss how fawning can start as self-protection in childhood, but later morph into overthinking, hypervigilance, and self-abandonment. Meg shares her own experience, including how fawning creates resentment and makes it difficult to find a healthy relationship or figure out your authentic needs. Topics include becoming aware of unconscious habits, building distress tolerance, grief, self-compassion, healthy boundaries, and speaking up for ourselves.

About our Guest: Meg Josephson is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and author of the new book <a href="https://megjosephson.com/are-you-mad-at-me">Are You Mad at Me?</a>

Key Topics:
0:00: Introduction
1:18: Self-sabotage as self-protection
4:01: Bringing the unconscious fawn response into awareness
9:51: Silencing wants and needs, conflict avoidance, and resentment
14:33: Rediscovering wants and needs after people pleasing
18:05: The healing arc: grief, anger, and relationship
25:30: Viewing people pleasing as a “part” rather than an identity
30:11: Nice vs. compassionate
51:36: Hypervigilance and the NICER practice
57:22: Authenticity as “uncovering” rather than “fixing”
1:03:02: Recap
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