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In the summer of 2024, a woman retreats into isolation, filling notebooks with carefully written details and rehearsing every line until it feels unshakable. To anyone watching, it looks like preparation. Discipline. Control.But what she is preparing for has nothing to do with school.When police are called to a Wisconsin apartment late one humid night, the story they’re given seems simple enough. Yet as investigators begin to listen closely, timelines shift, memories fracture, and the same brief window of time splinters into conflicting versions of the truth.How to support:For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes -Go to - <a href="https://www.patreon.com/MadnessPod">Patreon</a>How to connect:<a href="https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/">Website</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/themindsofmadness/">Instagram</a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/themindsofmadness/">Facebook</a><a href="https://twitter.com/MadnessPod">Twitter</a>Theme and Closing Track:Original compositions created for The Minds of MadnessPlease check out our sponsors and help support the podcast:Nutrafol - Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. 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Go to <a href="https://quince.com/madness">Quince.com/madness</a> for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Greenlight - Don’t wait to teach your kids real-world money skills; start your risk-free Greenlight trial today at <a href="https://greenlight.com/ca/MADNESS?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=host&utm_campaign=veritone_MADNESS">Greenlight.com/MADNESS</a>Marley Spoon - This new year, fast-track your way to eating well with Marley Spoon. Head to <a href="https://marleyspoon.com/select-plan?CLID=pod&v=Madness&utm_source=off&utm_medium=pod&utm_campaign=OFF_POD_SPLIT-PCT-JAN_235M_MSQ12026_Solo">MarleySpoon.com/offer/MADNESS</a> for 45% off your first order and free delivery.Research & Writing:Ryan DeiningerEditing:Aiden WolfSources:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UHXyjX59Q0&ab_channel=TheAlternateCorner">WI v. Samantha Krebs, Days 1 - 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUFEraaf2A&list=PLMD8umRLJkKxWhyMepX8yY1Y79lZGfOwI&index=19&ab_channel=COURTTV">LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87QDWByhyvY&list=PLMD8umRLJkKxWhyMepX8yY1Y79lZGfOwI&index=17&ab_channel=COURTTV">Samantha Krebs' Call With Police: 'Is He (Joey Carnot) Okay?'</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdG3_fByJRc&list=PLMD8umRLJkKxWhyMepX8yY1Y79lZGfOwI&index=16&ab_channel=COURTTV">LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 5 </a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geKM2fmcnuA&list=PLMD8umRLJkKxWhyMepX8yY1Y79lZGfOwI&index=9&pp=iAQB">LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 6</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AtvZqsso&list=PLMD8umRLJkKxWhyMepX8yY1Y79lZGfOwI&index=3&pp=iAQB">LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 7</a><a href="https://www.courttv.com/news/wi-v-samantha-krebs-kiss-and-kill-murder-trial/">Court Tv Trial Recap</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2025/09/12/samantha-krebs-of-appleton-found-guilty-of-intentional-homicide/86111637007/">Outagamie County jury convicts Samantha Krebs</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2025/09/11/samantha-krebs-outagamie-county-homicide-trial-jury-begins-deliberation/86091914007/">Prosecution says Samantha Krebs' suicide story is 'full of holes'</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2025/09/03/samantha-krebs-homicide-trial-begins-in-appleton-with-opening-statements/85964102007/">Samantha Krebs' defense claims boyfriend's injuries were self-inflicted</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2024/07/19/appleton-police-investigating-suspicious-death-on-north-park-drive-lane/74475423007/">Appleton police investigating suspicious death of man on North Park Drive Lane</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/16/appleton-woman-charged-with-homicide-in-fatal-stabbing-of-boyfriend/75254992007/">Appleton woman charged with homicide after boyfriend is stabbed</a><a href="https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/13/appleton-woman-faces-homicide-charge-in-connection-with-july-18-death/75211287007/">Police refer homicide charge against Appleton woman</a><a href="https://www.courttv.com/news/handwritten-notes-offer-play-by-play-of-boyfriends-murder-police-say/">Handwritten notes offer ‘play-by-play’ of boyfriend’s murder, police say </a><a href="https://fox11online.com/news/local/krebs-pleads-not-guilty-to-killing-her-boyfriend-appleton-murder-kissed-him">Krebs pleads not guilty to killing her boyfriend</a><a href="https://fox11online.com/news/crime/woman-accused-of-fatally-stabbing-boyfriend-in-appleton-apartment-samantha-krebs-park-drive-lane-victim-police#">$1 million bond set for woman</a><a href="https://www.courttv.com/news/police-woman-killed-boyfriend-kissed-him-and-apologized-before-leaving/">Police: Woman killed boyfriend, kissed him and apologized before leaving</a><a href="https://www.wbay.com/2024/09/16/appleton-woman-charged-with-fatally-stabbing-boyfriend/">Appleton woman charged with fatally stabbing boyfriend</a><a href="https://lawandcrime.com/crime/woman-kissed-dying-boyfriend-and-said-she-loved-him-after-begging-friends-to-just-tell-the-police-he-stabbed-himself-cops-say/">Woman 'kissed' dying boyfriend and begged friend to ' tell the police he stabbed himself'</a><a href="https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25150219/s-krebs.pdf">Criminal Complaint</a><a href="https://www.wichmannfuneralhomes.com/obituaries/joseph-joey-carnot">Joey Carnot Obituary</a></div>

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