#259: Learn how to pick the challenges in life that actually matter. We break down how to stop optimizing for the wrong things, why values trump goals in decision-making, practical strategies for building real friendships, and more.

<a href="https://markmanson.net/">Mark Manson</a> is the bestselling author of <a href="https://amzn.to/491jXQV">The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck</a> (20M+ copies sold). He hosts the <a href="https://solvedpodcast/">Solved</a> podcast, writes the newsletter <a href="https://markmanson.net/breakthrough">Your Next Breakthrough</a>, and co-founded <a href="https://purpose.app/">Purpose</a>, an AI tool for exploring purpose and values.

Link to Full Show Notes: <a href="https://chrishutchins.com/mark-manson-purpose-and-meaning">https://chrishutchins.com/mark-manson-purpose-and-meaning</a>

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Resources Mentioned
Mark: <a href="https://markmanson.net/">Website</a> | <a href="https://markmanson.net/breakthrough">Newsletter</a> | <a href="https://x.com/markmanson">X</a>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://amzn.to/48WWRLa">The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck</a></li>
</ul>
<a href="https://solvedpodcast.com/">Solved Podcast</a>
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 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxxiOnMANb0">Making Friends as an Adult, Solved</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXdMPNhp9M">Your Values, Solved</a></li>
</ul>
<a href="https://purpose.app/">Purpose App</a>

Full Show Notes
(00:00) Introduction
(00:47) What Most People Get Wrong About Living a Good Life
(01:13) Why Struggle Is Inevitable and Necessary
(02:18) Why Purpose Is Revealed, Not Found
(04:34) Choosing the Right Metric To Optimize Your Life
(06:26) The Three Ingredients of Meaningful Purpose
(08:32) Why Purpose Doesn’t Require Changing the World
(12:33) Radical Honesty as the Starting Point for Meaning
(14:32) What Happens After You Achieve Everything You Wanted
(17:48) Why Other People Can See Your Purpose Before You Do
(21:06) Why Honest Conversations Are So Hard (and So Necessary)
(28:41) Why Adult Friendship Is Uniquely Difficult
(32:29) How Work, Kids, and Technology Changed Friendship
(33:27) Why “Shared Stakes” Matter More Than Shared Spaces in Adult Friendships
(37:02) When Life Feels Hard and Why That’s Normal
(42:21) Making Better Decisions by Clarifying Your Values
(43:57) How To Check In on Your Life Without Obsessing Over Goals
(46:57) When Quitting a Goal Is the Right Decision
(50:48) Why We Rarely Talk About Meaning With Friends
(53:30) Building an AI To Ask Better Life Questions
(55:04) How AI and Therapy Can Work Together
(57:52) Is It Okay If Your Job Is Not Your Purpose?
(01:00:07) The First Step Toward a More Meaningful Life
(01:01:06) How To Define Value Beyond Status
(01:02:08) Where To Find More From Mark

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