With the release of Christopher Nolan's adaptation of the Odyssey, it seems like everyone's been talking about a 3,000-year-old epic again. But my guest thinks this ancient tale offers a framework for understanding our modern lives that you probably haven't heard before.Patrick Deneen is a professor of political science and the author of <a href="https://amzn.to/4flDTRJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Odyssey</a>. Today on the show, Patrick argues that Odysseus embodies a tension that has defined the human experience, and especially the American experience: we're both home-seeking and exploring, rooted and restless. We long to settle down somewhere, yet we're equally driven to push beyond the horizon in search of something new. Patrick shares how Alexis de Tocqueville made this observation about our country two centuries ago, how Odysseus navigates the temptation to become both more than human and less than human, and the surprising act Patrick thinks is the most heroic thing Odysseus does. We end our conversation with the idea that having a home can give us the confidence to explore, or as David Brooks put it, "All of life is a series of daring explorations from a secure base."Resources Related to the Podcast<ul><li><a href="https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/manhood/3-lessons-from-homers-odyssey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AoM Article: 3 Lessons From Homer’s Odyssey</a></li><li><a href="https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/manhood/podcast-337-life-lessons-odyssey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AoM Podcast #337: What Homer’s Odyssey Can Teach Us Today</a></li><li><a href="https://amzn.to/4b8rr58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45392/ulysses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Ulysses" by Alfred, Lord Tennyson</a></li></ul>Connect With Patrick Deneen<ul><li><a href="https://politicalscience.nd.edu/people/patrick-deneen/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patrick's faculty page</a></li><li><a href="https://www.patrickjdeneen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patrick's website</a></li><li><a href="https://creedandculture.com/books/american-odyssey/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">American Odyssey's page on Creed and Culture's website</a></li></ul>0:00 Intro & sponsor plugs0:41 Patrick Deneen's American Odyssey & Nolan's film2:28 Nolan's changes to Odysseus's character4:56 Dante's Odysseus in hell7:33 Why Odyssey keeps drawing Patrick back13:02 The most American text: home-seeking vs exploring17:15 Tocqueville's restless Americans20:03 Restlessness as source of American unhappiness21:03 Odysseus vs the temptation to be more/less than human26:14 That temptation in modern American life31:26 Odysseus's underworld talk with Achilles39:41 What today's Americans can take from that41:24 Does Odysseus stay home? The "sequels" to The Odyssey45:49 Home as the foundation for risk-taking and adventure51:14 Where to find the bookSee Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

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