“Leave aside the cruelty of not giving these funds out,” Andrew says, reflecting on the SNAP benefits case now before the Supreme Court. “What does it say that we're not prioritizing hunger as an issue?” Then, Mary brings listeners up to speed on the dizzying chain of events since Friday and where the SNAP case stands, even as the Senate and House appear to be moving towards reopening the government. And in honoring Veterans Day, Mary and Andrew dig into several issues affecting service members, including the latest filing in Trump v Illinois, and how to think about the term "regular forces", plus Judge Immergut’s final order prohibiting the National Guard deployment in Portland. And finally, Just Security’s co-editor in chief, Tess Bridgeman, joins to analyze what the law says— and doesn’t say-- about blowing up boats in international waters without a clear justification or congressional authorization.Further reading: <ul><li>Judge Wolf’s piece in The Atlantic: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/11/federal-judge-resignation-trump/684845/" target="_blank">Why I Am Resigning.</a> A federal judge explains his reasoning for leaving the bench.</li><li>Just Security’s collection of information around the boat strikes: <a href="https://www.justsecurity.org/120753/collection-u-s-lethal-strikes-on-suspected-drug-traffickers/" target="_blank">Collection: U.S. Lethal Strikes on Suspected Drug Traffickers</a></li></ul>Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/msnbc/id6442484553" target="_blank">MSNBC Premium</a> on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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