Rundown -
 
Intro - 00:34
 
Lisa Wayne in Craig's Lawyers' Lounge - 07:13
 
Troubadour Dave Gunders - 01:00:53
 
"Come Down Miss Lizzie" by Dave Gunders - 01:20:57
 
Outro - 01:26:30
 
Lisa Wayne is the Executive Director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. She lives in San Francisco and works in Washington, D.C.  Previously, she was a renowned Deputy Colorado State Public Defender in Denver.
 
Lisa enters Craig’s Lawyers’ Lounge to discuss great Denver courtroom memories. Denver colleagues and judges get reviewed. So does the case of Denver Capitol Hill Rapist Quintin Wortham, who had Lisa Wayne as his lawyer for a memorable while.
 
We discuss why some people like Kamala Harris become prosecutors while other law graduates are attracted to the defense bar and public defender offices. Lisa Wayne explains why she takes such pride in her PD days and leadership role as a criminal defense attorney.
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As a proud mixed-race black woman, Lisa Wayne reacts to the incendiary racial comments by Donald Trump, claiming Kamala Harris disrespects her various heritages and just recently “turned black.”  We discuss many ways MAGA threatens the Constitution and the Rule of Law.
 
The song, "Come Down Miss Lizzie," honors America as a melting pot. Troubadour Dave Gunders discusses the host’s fast road trip voyage to Nebraska and Minnesota. The trip honored Kamala Harris’ selection of native Nebraskan, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her Dem VP nominee. We like the choice and feel and discuss the Kamala momentum.

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