Destruction can be part of the building process; it certainly is a key part of Elon Musk&rsquo;s approach to business and his new - legally ambiguous - role with DOGE. There is, however, a fine line between disruption and destruction. The tech mantra of &ldquo;move fast and break things&rdquo; can be dangerous, particularly when applied to the government. On today&rsquo;s show, Sarah and Beth explore this idea and how the new Trump administration is letting Musk run full steam ahead. Plus, they discuss the Trump administration&rsquo;s approach to foreign policy, most notably marked this week by Ukraine&rsquo;s exclusion from the negotiating table with Russia. Outside of politics, Beth shares her new hack for managing her online shopping. Topics Discussed <ul data-pm-slice="3 3 []"> <li> Ukraine Excluded from Negotiations </li> <li> Is Elon Musk Building or Destroying Through DOGE? </li> <li> Outside of Politics: Online Shopping Strategies </li> </ul> Visit <a href="https://pantsuitpolitics.substack.com/s/podcast">our Substack page</a> for complete show notes and episode resources.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

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