This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying.
Guests:
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 <li>Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.”</li>
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Additional Reading:
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/06/us/indianapolis-data-center-shooting.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/technology/man-who-attacked-openai-ceos-home-had-list-of-other-ai-executives.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/kara-swisher-wants-to-live-forever" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever</a></li>
 <li><a href="http://ft.com/content/02107c23-6c7a-4c19-b8e2-b45f4bb9ce5f?accessToken=zwAAAZ2YBMcBkc8CEHwjbHpMGdO44rRfS7nOXw.MEYCIQDssvG3RYyhNQfO6Xnuaw5PG30RmuDW5U2afGCfE9edswIhAPcxqjPWmcfIYN1NvUuNPMw6hbpAIVPlYeH4DDm4oHKB&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareId=fc8a23cd-b5c1-4c68-9bbe-b3424f533ece&shareType=enterprise&syn-25a6b1a6=1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Meta Builds A.I. Version of Mark Zuckerberg to Interact With Staff</a></li>
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