In this episode, I sit down with Jefferson Fisher—trial lawyer, bestselling author, and communication expert with over 12 million followers—to map out a clear, balanced path to $10 million a year in revenue.We dive into Jefferson’s wide range of business assets including his podcast, newsletter, book, speaking, AI product, and fast-growing membership. Then we break down exactly what to prioritize, how to build the right team, and what he needs to stop doing to scale without burning out.Whether you’re a fast-growing creator or a business owner looking for leverage and balance, this is a blueprint.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:08 Jefferson’s growth from zero to 6M Instagram followers03:22 Mapping all his revenue channels06:08 His speaking fees, membership size, and podcast numbers09:28 Balancing business growth with family time13:24 The hidden cost of daily content creation18:25 How batching could change Jefferson’s life22:32 The power of speaking as leverage25:31 Planning for $10M while staying present at home30:34 The surprising value of Jefferson’s DMs36:04 Why the membership is the biggest opportunity42:17 Automating conversions with his newsletter47:44 Building a team to scale53:19 The role Jefferson should hire next57:08 Balancing brand vision with freedom01:04:11 Why we’re pausing the course idea (for now)01:11:03 Wrapping with Jefferson’s biggest takeawaysIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: <a href="https://nathanbarry.com/show">https://nathanbarry.com/show</a>Follow Nathan:Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarry">https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarry</a>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarry">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarry</a>X: <a href="https://twitter.com/nathanbarry">https://twitter.com/nathanbarry</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow">https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow</a>Website: <a href="https://nathanbarry.com">https://nathanbarry.com</a>Follow Jefferson:Website: <a href="https://www.jeffersonfisher.com">https://www.jeffersonfisher.com</a>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher">https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher</a>X: <a href="https://twitter.com/jefferson_fishr">https://twitter.com/jefferson_fishr</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@jeffersonfisher">https://www.youtube.com/@jeffersonfisher</a>The Next Conversation (book): <a href="https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book">https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book</a>Featured in this episode:The Next Conversation (book): <a href="https://www.thenextconversation.com">https://www.thenextconversation.com</a>Jefferson Fisher: <a href="https://www.jeffersonfisher.com">https://www.jeffersonfisher.com</a>Jefferson’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher">https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher</a>Civility (his company): <a href="https://www.jeffersonfisher.com">https://www.jeffersonfisher.com</a>Kit: <a href="https://www.kit.com">https://www.kit.com</a>

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