You love building web apps with Python, and HTMX got you excited about the hypermedia approach -- let the server drive the HTML, skip the JavaScript build step, keep things simple. But then you hit that last 10%: You need Alpine.js for interactivity, your state gets out of sync, and suddenly you're juggling two unrelated libraries that weren't designed to work together. 
 

 
What if there was a single 11-kilobyte framework that gave you everything HTMX and Alpine do, and more, with real-time updates, multiplayer collaboration out of the box, and performance so fast you're actually bottlenecked by the monitor's refresh rate? That's Datastar. 
 

 
On this episode, I sit down with its creator Delaney Gillilan, core maintainer Ben Croker, and Datastar convert Chris May to explore how this backend-driven, server-sent-events-first framework is changing the way full-stack developers think about the modern web. 
 
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<h2 class="links-heading mb-4">Links from the show</h2>
<div>Guests 
Delaney Gillilan: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/delaney-gillilan-338734a8/?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >linkedin.com</a> 
Ben Croker: <a href="https://x.com/ben_pylo?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >x.com</a> 
Chris May: <a href="https://everydaysuperpowers.dev?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >everydaysuperpowers.dev</a> 
 
Datastar: <a href="https://data-star.dev?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >data-star.dev</a> 
HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >htmx.org</a> 
AlpineJS: <a href="https://alpinejs.dev?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >alpinejs.dev</a> 
Core Attribute Tour: <a href="https://data-star.dev/guide/getting_started#data-*" target="_blank" >data-star.dev</a> 
data-star.dev/examples: <a href="https://data-star.dev/examples/?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >data-star.dev</a> 
github.com/starfederation/datastar-python: <a href="https://github.com/starfederation/datastar-python?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >github.com</a> 
VSCode: <a href="https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=starfederation.datastar-vscode&featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >marketplace.visualstudio.com</a> 
OpenVSX: <a href="https://open-vsx.org/extension/starfederation/datastar-vscode?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >open-vsx.org</a> 
PyCharm/Intellij plugin: <a href="https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/26072-datastar-support?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >plugins.jetbrains.com</a> 
data-star.dev/datastar_pro: <a href="https://data-star.dev/datastar_pro?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >data-star.dev</a> 
gg: <a href="https://discord.gg/bnRNgZjgPh?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >discord.gg</a> 
HTML-ivating your Django web app's experience with HTMX, AlpineJS, and streaming HTML - Chris May: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYV8K71pY64&t=548s" target="_blank" >www.youtube.com</a> 
Senior Engineer tries Vibe Coding: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2C2CNmK7dQ" target="_blank" >www.youtube.com</a> 
1 Billion Checkboxes: <a href="https://checkboxes.andersmurphy.com?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >checkboxes.andersmurphy.com</a> 
Game of life example: <a href="https://example.andersmurphy.com?featured_on=talkpython" target="_blank" >example.andersmurphy.com</a> 
 
Watch this episode on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFc74eFhKBY" target="_blank" >youtube.com</a> 
Episode #537 deep-dive: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/episodes/show/537/datastar-modern-web-dev-simplified#takeaways-anchor" target="_blank" >talkpython.fm/537</a> 
Episode transcripts: <a href="https://talkpython.fm/episodes/transcript/537/datastar-modern-web-dev-simplified" target="_blank" >talkpython.fm</a> 
 
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