Kristine welcomes back Dr. Paul Zeitz to the Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff, Live the Big Stuff podcast for a heartfelt conversation about the true meaning of patriotism. Together, they explore how honoring our shared rights and humanity can bring us closer, even in times of deep division.
Together, they reveal practical insights on how to:
-Recognize whether leaders are working for unity or fueling division
-Stay open to hearing different perspectives without losing your own voice
-Navigate family and friendships when opinions don’t align
-Overcome the fear and uncertainty so many of us feel in today’s America

This powerful conversation is a reminder that what unites us is far greater than what divides us and that living with courage, empathy, and optimism is the path forward for all.


Dr. Paul Zeitz is a physician, epidemiologist, author, and award-winning advocate for global justice and human rights. For more than 35 years, he has led campaigns and movements with a bold vision for a more just and compassionate world. In his new book Hit Refresh on the U.S. Constitution: A Revolutionary Roadmap for Fulfilling the Promise of Democracy, he shares how we can peacefully and inclusively rewrite the "code" of our democracy—so it truly works for everyone. 
 
Visit his website: <a href='https://drpaulzeitz.org/'>https://drpaulzeitz.org/</a> 
Follow Dr. Zeitz on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/drpaulzeitz/'>https://www.instagram.com/drpaulzeitz/</a>

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