This week we’re joined by Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker. Now he’s back with his next big thing called Dagger — CI/CD as code that runs anywhere. We’re users of Dagger so check out our codebase if you want to see how it works. On today’s show Solomon takes us back to the days of Docker, what it was like on that 10 year journey, his transition from Docker to Dagger, Dagger’s community-led growth model, their focus on open source and community, how it works, and even a cameo from Kelsey Hightower to explain how Dagger works.

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Featuring:
<ul><li>Solomon Hykes &ndash; <a href="https://twitter.com/solomonstre" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/shykes" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a></li><li>Adam Stacoviak &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@adam" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamstac" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://adamstacoviak.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo &ndash; <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>

Show Notes:
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<li><a href="https://dagger.io">dagger.io</a></li>
<li><a href="https://docs.dagger.io">docs.dagger.io</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/friends/6">Changelog & Friends #6: Even the best rides come to an end</a></li>
<li><a href="https://changelog.com/shipit/48">Ship It! #48: Launching Dagger</a></li>
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Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/podcast/the-changelog-550.md">PRs welcome!</a>

Timestamps:

(00:00) - This week on The Changelog(01:21) - Sponsor: Square(04:16) - Start the show!(05:26) - The last time we talked...(07:04) - 10 year journey(14:31) - Simultaneous invention(17:41) - So, what is is Dagger?(19:20) - What were you running from?(23:32) - What pulled you to this?(31:39) - Sponsor: Passbolt(32:45) - Was it a fail?(37:37) - Dagg 101(46:57) - Kelsey and I go way back...(52:03) - The manufacturing problem(58:02) - Kelsey explains Dagger(1:01:03) - Connecting the two analogies(1:02:23) - Daggerizing an example(1:08:04) - Ideal community member?(1:15:58) - Does Dagger require Dagger?(1:18:27) - Does prod require your control plane?(1:19:05) - Are we using the control plane?(1:22:00) - Downfall of Docker model v1(1:25:33) - Exciting times(1:27:11) - Dagger is hiring!(1:28:59) - What the heck is this thing?(1:30:41) - Read the docs(1:31:29) - Solomon will be back in 6 months(1:31:47) - Up next...

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