Real leadership doesn’t emerge in moments of certainty—it’s forged in ambiguity, discomfort, and self-doubt. No matter where you are on your leadership journey, you will face moments where you don’t know the answers and can’t see the road ahead. In this thoughtful conversation with leadership expert Pete Behrens, we unpack how to lead authentically in the fog, embrace the messiness of real life, and step into leadership not because you’re ready—but because you’re needed.Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.w4cy.com</a>) part of Talk 4 Radio (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.talk4radio.com</a>) on the Talk 4 Media Network (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.talk4media.com</a>). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.talk4tv.com</a>).Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.talk4media.com</a>), Talk 4 Podcasting (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.talk4podcasting.com</a>), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support</a>.

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